From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (re)display problems after font backend merge Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 14:30:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87wslti040.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <87fxsjmmo2.fsf@escher.local.home> <87fxsiczun.fsf@escher.local.home> <482E4EB0.3070003@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211027491 16831 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2008 12:31:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:31:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 17 14:32:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JxLZn-0006ri-0X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 14:31:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JxLZ3-0005YO-AF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 08:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JxLYx-0005Wj-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 08:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JxLYw-0005WF-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 08:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55351 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JxLYv-0005WC-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 08:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:41435 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JxLYv-00029U-Jq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 08:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JxLYq-0006TC-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 May 2008 12:30:52 +0000 Original-Received: from i5387de46.versanet.de ([83.135.222.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 12:30:52 +0000 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i5387de46.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 12:30:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i5387de46.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97316 Archived-At: On Sat, 17 May 2008 04:19:12 +0100 David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Stephen Berman wrote: > >> For ascii: >> >> -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-m-0-iso8859-1 >> > > Call it (a) > >> For the non-ascii characters: >> >> -gnu-unifont-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-p-80-iso10646-1 >> > > Call it (b) > > This is mostly me trying to understand something: > > Those (a) and (b) look like XLFD font specs, as used by X core 1-bit > fonts - see output of command xlsfonts [*] > >> This is post-merge, in the pre-merge buffer, the corresponding line of >> the character description for both ascii and non-ascii characters is >> this: >> >> dejavu sans mono:pixelsize=12:foundry=unknown:weight=medium:slant=r:width=normal >> > > Call it (c). That looks like a fontconfig font spec, as used by xft > antialiased fonts - see output of fc-list [*] > > Are you setting X resource "Emacs.FontBackend: xft"? I've found that > without that, I get a strange mix of decent and horrible font rendering > as xft fonts (yay) and x core fonts (boo) are apparently both used somehow? I have not been setting any X resources, though the distribution I'm using (openSUSE 10.3) does set default X resources for Emacs, though "Emacs.FontBackend: xft" is not among them. I just put that in ~/.Xresources and started a fresh Emacs, but I don't see any difference: the broken underlining and Gnus Summary buffer problems I documented are still present. Steve Berman