From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil? Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:33:40 +0900 Message-ID: <87wsj160bf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <18571.25125.311010.324079@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87od4k1nj5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <1F7E32D0-7C19-4950-94DB-F6CD33A56EB0@gmail.com> <6161f3180807290043l2b0cc1as85a338204687f183@mail.gmail.com> <87y73kbvz3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4891F546.2080505@gmail.com> <8763ql7hmk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48924CE0.9090603@gmail.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217550833 17343 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 00:33:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, Chong Yidong , andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@users.sourceforge.net To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 02:34:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOibP-0004wI-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:34:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42134 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOiaS-00036X-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOiaP-00036I-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOiaM-00034h-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58920 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOiaM-00034e-FX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:52298) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOiaB-0001Ur-VK; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:33:24 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.45.67.127.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.45.67.127] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1KOia7-0001aC-En; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:33:19 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD76BDFB3; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:33:40 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <48924CE0.9090603@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:38:08 +0200") Original-Lines: 22 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101837 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >> Macros do not -- and cannot -- make any guarantees about what happens if >> you execute them in a different environment, or on different text, than >> where they were recorded. > > Do you mean that there is something that prevents us from temporary > turning things off during keyboard macro recording and execution? In > that case: what? The point is that it doesn't actually help -- there are a million other cases that can trip up the user, and the only general solution is for users to be aware of problems that can crop up during macro replying and be fairly conservative in how they make macros. Having commands work _differently_ during macro recording is guaranteed to confuse people, and doing so will probably cause as many problems as it "solves". -Miles --=20 =E8=87=AA=E3=82=89=E3=82=92=E7=A9=BA=E3=81=AB=E3=81=97=E3=81=A6=E3=80=81=E5= =BF=83=E3=82=92=E9=96=8B=E3=81=8F=E6=99=82=E3=80=81=E9=81=93=E3=81=AF=E9=96= =8B=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8C=E3=82=8B