From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-n and C-a Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:29:43 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87wscdfxfs.fsf@jurta.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233277094 22810 80.91.229.12 (30 Jan 2009 00:58:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 30 01:59:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LShjC-0002Jw-1s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:59:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LShht-0004Vq-QP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:58:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LShho-0004U1-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LShhn-0004Rs-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:58:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33185 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LShhn-0004Rg-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:57:59 -0500 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]:51336) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LShhk-0007nC-Uf; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:57:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LShPB-0000Xq-Vc; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:38:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:32:12 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 1678f860418e8694a064f05d5e21ded6 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108382 Archived-At: > * Make M-{ and M-} treat each line as a paragraph. That would be the > right thing for them to do in such text. This would require either a > minor mode or detecting long-line text heuristically. > > What do others think? `M-{' and `M-}' are already associated with moving to the beginning and end of the paragraph. So they are more like `C-a' and `C-e' going to the beginning and end of the real line that are like paragraphs in word wrap mode. I think `C-up' and `C-down' are better keys for real line motion commands when `up'/`C-p' and `down'/`C-n' are used for screen line motion commands. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/