From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:46 -0400 Message-ID: <87ws6371sh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <878wimdbzp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83r5weoz8u.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbxagh6e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83prbxq1y7.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbx7v5xg.fsf@iki.fi> <87fxcrl9kw.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248107589 18397 80.91.229.12 (20 Jul 2009 16:33:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , eliz@gnu.org, Teemu Likonen , stephen@xemacs.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 20 18:33:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MSvnQ-0004tN-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:33:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48896 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSvnQ-0002I7-47 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:33:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSvnM-0002Hr-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSvnH-0002EM-T9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44366 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSvnH-0002EJ-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po30.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.4]:33849) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MSvnE-0006tL-4s; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:48 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014244.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.244]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po30.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6KGWki6021808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:46 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85AB0C056; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:32:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87fxcrl9kw.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:20:47 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.96 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112836 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Teemu Likonen writes: >> What things does this change prevent you from doing? If "M-x >> report-emacs-bug" does not work anymore revert the change in your >> personal settings: >> >> (setq mail-user-agent 'sendmail-user-agent) >> >> And then use "M-x report-emacs-bug". > > He knows that, he's just being pissy. This is not a helpful comment. Both sides of the argument need to calm down. It's understandable that long-time users of mail-mode would be annoyed by this change. Snide remarks won't persude them to help with the matter at hand, which is ironing out the differences between mail-mode and message mode.