From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:49:37 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87wrwcfadg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> <87tyri429l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <203268BCBA374E2CA3097FC84362424A@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271120016 21714 80.91.229.12 (13 Apr 2010 00:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E4rv'?= , 'Stefan Monnier' , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Jan_Dj?=, "'Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]'" To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 13 02:53:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1UNi-0000dR-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:53:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56161 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1UNh-0006fS-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O1ULg-0005fo-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45508 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1ULb-0005di-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1ULY-0001x5-1s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:51:23 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out1.starman.ee ([85.253.0.3]:54629 helo=mx1.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1ULX-0001wu-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:51:19 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.30.198.cable.starman.ee [82.131.30.198]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900033F40FA; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:51:13 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <203268BCBA374E2CA3097FC84362424A@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:09:18 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123552 Archived-At: > A bookmark is essentially a (persistent) named collection of info. > That info typically includes a destination, which is typically a file > location and a position within the file. But although that is > typical, a bookmark need not be associated with any destination. Let's compare how this is implemented in web browsers. Typing C-b in Firefox opens a left-side pane that indeed looks like a vertical tab bar. But it has completely different semantics than the real tab bar. Clicking on a bookmark opens a web page in a new tab. Clicking on a tab selects a web page in the existing tab. So bookmarks are not a good example what the tab bar could be used for. I think in Emacs the most suitable widget for that is the speed bar. Of course, we could allow any action for tabs by design, but using them for bookmarks is a bad idea. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/