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* Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users?
@ 2010-07-13 19:02 Stephen Eilert
  2010-07-13 19:29 ` Chong Yidong
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  0 siblings, 4 replies; 117+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Eilert @ 2010-07-13 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bernardo Barros
  Cc: fplemma, rms, lennart.borgman, joakim, emacs-devel, acm,
	Stephen J. Turnbull, miles, eliz, John Yates

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bernardo Barros
<bernardobarros2@gmail.com> wrote:
> many people in the gnu world are using qt4. are there reasons not to
> consider it?
>

Does it matter?

You see, it is not like Emacs has stretched GTK's capabilities to the
limit. Actually there isn't much being used: menu, the window itself,
scrollbars and a very primitive toolbar (that I always turn off), as
far as I can tell.

What about exposing Cairo bindings (GTK already uses it, so it is not
exactly a new dependency, only the headers) to elisp so that we can
actually draw a prettier user interface? Things like real lines
instead of "-" for the modeline (and a better looking modeline
itself), better looking widgets (the horrendous fake buttons created
by customize, for example), better fringe layer or even, say, an UML
mode with good-looking classes. And perhaps a cute speedbar.

Yes, looks do matter. Most Emacs screenshots look kinda dated and
primitive - and this carries over to the overall perception. I've
added hundreds of lines to my .emacs for looks alone, but I can't draw
something better programatically.


--Stephen

Sent from my Emacs



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2010-07-13 19:02 Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Stephen Eilert
2010-07-13 19:29 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-13 19:51   ` Chad Brown
2010-07-13 20:48 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-13 22:30   ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Chad Brown
2010-07-14  1:39     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-07-14  2:32       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-14  7:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14 18:37       ` Chad Brown
2010-07-14 20:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14 21:24           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15  6:55             ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas (was: Emacs, QT and Cairo) Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15  7:46               ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  7:53                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  8:36                   ` joakim
2010-07-15  8:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15  8:50                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  8:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15  8:48                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  8:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15  9:29                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 10:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 10:54                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 12:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 14:18                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 15:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16  6:33                                   ` Miles Bader
2010-07-15 16:00                                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-15 16:27                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 17:06                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 17:48                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 18:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 21:27                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16  8:17                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 14:24                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 15:19                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 16:07                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 18:43                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 21:21                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-16 23:44                                                         ` Chad Brown
2010-07-17  0:08                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17  7:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17  8:34                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-17  9:10                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17  9:40                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-17 10:23                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 13:49                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17  7:27                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 13:42                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-17 15:27                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17 21:53                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-18  1:42                                                               ` Miles Bader
2010-07-18  2:45                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-18  8:06                                                                   ` Chad Brown
2010-07-18 14:43                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-21  8:34                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-22 14:26                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-15 17:22                                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-07-15 18:02                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 22:10                                         ` Stephen Eilert
2010-07-16  7:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16  2:14                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16  7:33                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  9:52                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 10:15                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 10:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-16 12:42                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  3:50                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  8:33                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  8:38                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  9:18                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  9:25                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17 10:26                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-18  3:51                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-18  7:10                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-18  7:45                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-18  9:06                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-19  0:50                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  1:00                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  1:40                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  8:04                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17  8:25                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:21                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 10:01                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:26                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 14:05                                           ` Davis Herring
2010-07-16 17:38                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  1:12                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  7:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17  7:31                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  8:12                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-17  8:32                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15 14:24                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 14:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 15:16                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 15:20                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-15 17:14                                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  9:20               ` Andy Wingo
2010-07-15 18:41               ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas (was: Emacs, QT and Cairo) Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2010-07-15 21:51                 ` Emacs and Gnome Canvas Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-15 22:21                   ` Bruce Stephens
2010-07-27 21:24     ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Stefan Monnier
2010-07-27 21:36       ` Chad Brown
2010-07-28  3:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-14  8:59 ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-14  9:41   ` Emacs, QT and Cairo David Engster
2010-07-14  9:56     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-14 13:50     ` Drew Adams
2010-07-14 14:14       ` David Engster
2010-07-14 14:28         ` joakim
2010-07-14 15:41   ` Emacs, QT and Cairo Was: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Chong Yidong
2010-07-14 16:17     ` joakim
2010-07-14 18:04       ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15 23:15 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-07-16  7:41   ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16 10:24     ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2010-07-16 12:36       ` Jan Djärv

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