From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:29:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wre9td1w.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1uwium8a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:16:13 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Obviously, there is a trade-off: exploiting font-lock means more
>> "magically correct" segmenting; using a hack (like marking chars
>> special) means less dependence on the font-lock machinery. I don't
>> think the latter is worth it.
>
> The problem is not jit-lock-defer-time but the fact that font-lock may
> be turned off. We could do it in syntax-propertize, of course, but it's
> not great either (e.g. syntax-propertize is applied to all the text
> before window-start whether that text will ever be displayed or not).
I don't think we have to be concerned with the set of users who (i) wish
to turn off font-lock and (ii) edit source code with RTL characters and
(iii) expect those RTL segments to be automagically segmented according
to the programming language syntax. Relax any one of those assumptions
and things are fine.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-19 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 245+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-15 8:04 bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-15 9:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 9:24 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 11:27 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 12:56 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 14:18 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-15 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-15 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 6:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 9:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-24 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-24 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-26 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-26 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-27 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-27 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-28 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-28 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-25 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-22 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-22 21:35 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 9:58 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 15:29 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones [was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default] Drew Adams
2011-08-23 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:45 ` use of `mouse-face' to delimit text zones Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-23 19:17 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 18:24 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Stefan Monnier
2011-08-23 19:14 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-23 8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 18:28 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-15 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 2:02 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:07 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 7:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 7:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:40 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-16 10:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-16 9:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-16 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 15:48 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-16 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 22:24 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-17 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 9:34 ` Juri Linkov
2011-08-17 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-17 22:32 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 17:13 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-18 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 22:44 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-19 3:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-19 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 20:00 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 8:14 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers (was: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-20 9:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-20 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 13:51 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 17:28 ` bidi reordering in program source buffers Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-25 20:01 ` Ehud Karni
2011-08-25 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:29 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2011-08-19 7:13 ` bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 19:43 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-20 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-19 14:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-19 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-15 9:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-16 10:02 Andrey Paramonov
2011-08-16 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-16 11:27 ` Andrey Paramonov
2011-07-28 17:21 Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-28 18:51 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28 20:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-07-30 22:55 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 3:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:21 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:44 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 7:36 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:27 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 6:51 ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-07-31 7:59 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 10:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 10:35 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:23 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 11:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 13:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-31 14:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 1:14 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-01 2:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 2:39 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 2:56 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 18:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 5:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 6:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-04 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 6:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 10:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 13:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 14:04 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-04 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-04 16:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-05 5:46 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-05 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 8:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-04 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-04 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 3:41 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-08-05 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-05 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-05 21:54 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-06 2:01 ` Jason Rumney
2011-08-06 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-07 17:21 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-07 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-09 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 16:30 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 17:26 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-09 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 18:00 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-11 5:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-09 22:26 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 1:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 4:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:07 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 16:52 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-11 2:45 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-10 3:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-10 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 3:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-10 5:36 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-10 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 22:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 22:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-17 23:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-18 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-10 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-10 19:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 15:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 16:16 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-06 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-06 19:21 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-07-31 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-02 16:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 16:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 18:27 ` James Cloos
2011-08-02 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 15:45 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-01 20:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 7:20 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-02 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 10:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-08-02 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 13:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-02 17:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-02 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 3:04 ` محسن بنان
2011-08-03 5:11 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 5:52 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 9:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 12:08 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 13:06 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 14:10 ` James Cloos
2011-08-03 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 17:20 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-08-03 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-03 19:26 ` main
2011-08-02 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
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