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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jeremiah Dodds <jeremiah.dodds@gmail.com>,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Better startup error handling
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:04:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wr50uko3.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpqaszk62.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:07:56 -0400")

On 28 Apr 2012, Stefan Monnier spake thusly:

> The way I see it, we should ideally be able to load the .emacs in such
> a way that an error doesn't prevent the rest of the file from being
> loaded, and the error should be clearly signaled to the user with some
> kind of line-number information.

Yes. This presumably means some sort of evaluator hook to execute some
code between each toplevel form, or wrap each top-level form in a
condition-case -- reader macros would I think handle it, but elisp
doesn't have those.

> In my wildest dreams I also imagine that we'd check for obsolete vars,
> hooks, and functions.  Maybe even give the same kind of feedback that
> the byte-compiler gives about the code.

Can't you do that trivially by loading .emacs into a temporary buffer in
default.el, then byte-compiling it and throwing the results away?
(In default.el because that way it picks up changes to the byte-compiler
configuration that you may have made in .emacs.)

Downsides: loads the byte-compiler even in sessions that don't need it,
and notably inefficient.

-- 
NULL && (void)



  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-28 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-25  0:24 proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Steve Yegge
2012-04-25  4:45 ` Karl Fogel
2012-04-25  6:28 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25  6:34   ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25 13:21   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-01 22:01     ` Randal L. Schwartz
2012-04-25  7:53 ` Helmut Eller
2012-04-25  8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-25 14:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 14:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-25 15:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 16:41         ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25 16:45         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-04-25 16:46         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-26 21:20         ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-26 22:11           ` Miles Bader
2012-04-26 23:52             ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27  0:29               ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27  3:20                 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-04-27  3:41                   ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27  3:59                     ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-04-27  4:24                       ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27  8:49                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-27 14:23                         ` Nix
2012-04-28  2:07                         ` Better startup error handling (was: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y) Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 12:04                           ` Nix [this message]
2012-04-28 15:16                             ` Better startup error handling Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 15:42                               ` David Engster
2012-04-28 15:55                               ` Drew Adams
2012-04-28 19:39                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 17:26                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-30  8:43                           ` Christian Lynbech
2012-04-30  9:18                             ` chad
2012-04-27 16:35                   ` proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Richard Stallman
2012-04-27  1:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-27  1:16             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-27 16:35               ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-28 11:13                 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-04-28 17:02                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-28 19:48                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 21:56                     ` Eli Barzilay
2012-06-03  3:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-27  4:17             ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27  6:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-27 19:05                 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27 21:24                   ` Drew Adams
2012-04-28  4:43                     ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-28  6:58                       ` Andreas Schwab
2012-04-29 21:26                   ` Odd formatting (was: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-30  7:48                     ` Odd formatting Steinar Bang
2012-04-30 10:14                       ` Antoine Levitt
2012-04-30 13:27                         ` Nix
2012-04-28  2:02               ` proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 14:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-29 17:00 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-29 17:08   ` Drew Adams
2012-04-29 17:29     ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-29 18:01       ` Drew Adams
2012-04-29 19:51       ` PJ Weisberg

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