From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw strings (experimental patches inside) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:40:38 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87wr1cq8hl.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87wr1gux4f.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lihutpfw.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <871ujkthkz.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344271264 16046 80.91.229.3 (6 Aug 2012 16:41:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 06 18:41:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMX-0004UD-3O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:41:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMW-00028S-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:41:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33406) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMU-00028K-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:40:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMT-000886-2G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:40:58 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMS-00087a-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SyQMP-0004KI-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:40:53 +0200 Original-Received: from 81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com ([81.202.16.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:40:53 +0200 Original-Received: from pjb by 81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:40:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NTY1YWFkMGIzODk1OTc4OTlmYzJjMDM4Y2FmNTRjMGQyZmM3ZGM5NA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152226 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> I think the problem is to get emacs-lisp-mode to understand it. >> Indeed, CL reader macros are a problem for editors. > [...examples of complex situations...] > > I do not think the benefits justify such complexity at this point. Specifically, it would only target one user class of emacs: the Common Lisp programmers. The problem is that if CL programmers eventually fork to their own clone of emacs, a lot of them won't be programming emacs lisp anymore. This would not necessarily be a better situation. Moreover, notice that it hints to a general solution to the multi-mode problem. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.