From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:47:48 +0900 Message-ID: <87wqgfsxsr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87r47bi1e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <52F96284.50507@yandex.ru> <52FAE12B.6060101@yandex.ru> <52FC3BEE.60604@yandex.ru> <52FCD2B4.5080006@yandex.ru> <52FD9F1D.50205@yandex.ru> <83mwhucg1h.fsf@gnu.org> <878ute589i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d2iqc84m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqgxkcr9.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n41db0d.fsf@gnu.org> <52FE2985.4070703@yandex.ru> <831tz5daes.fsf@gnu.org> <8738jlohd6.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txc1bl83.fsf@gnu.org> <5300189A.9090208@yandex.ru> <83wqgv9fbj.fsf@gnu.org> <20140216180712.236069f6@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83sirj9cyp.fsf@gnu.org> <20140217203145.71a849f7@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <837g8t8ouc.fsf@gnu.org> <20140219080524.25689b6b@forcix.jorgenschaefer.de> <83k3cr58o2.fsf@gnu.org> <530BAEE5.9040004@online.de> <87ppmatkpe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393559415 21682 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2014 03:50:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 28 04:50:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJESq-0001EV-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJESq-0004Uq-77 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 22:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40803) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJESg-0004M3-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 22:50:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJESZ-0000gk-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 22:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:60610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJESY-0008Ns-IW; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 22:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4E89708AF; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:47:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11A491A28E5; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:47:49 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169917 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > This is because LLVM does not try to defend users' freedom at all. > > Of course it does. It gives them the choice of using excellent free > software. > > You have misinterpreted my statement. LLVM is free software, but it > does not defend users' freedom because only copyleft does that. That's a nice soundbite, but I'll resist the temptation to disagree verbosely. However, this situation is easily enough changed. The useful programs from the LLVM project can be forked (AFAIK their license is not perversely incompatible with the GPL) as GNU projects under the "GPL v3 or later" permission schema. Would you object to that?