From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:34:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87wq91uhe8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <87sijqxzr2.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <877g11c8wh.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411050891 32093 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2014 14:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rasmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 18 16:34:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcnC-0008J8-Pn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:34:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51524 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcnC-000204-E3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34614) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcn5-0001zv-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcn1-0003VG-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:58308) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcn0-0003US-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcmt-0002So-G0; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:34:24 +0100 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XUcmt-0001Hh-QP; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:34:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877g11c8wh.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:15:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174501 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > Richard Stallman writes: > >> Thinking of Emacs as an entire ecosystem, most of Emacs is already >> maintained independently from either Emacs core or GNU ELPA. >> >> That is a shocking statement -- is it really true? > > Using the download statistics from MELPA (attached) there's some > packages with more than 20000 downloads. Now I'm not clear how this > metrics come about, e.g. are upgrades counted as download and what it > the time window etc.? Yep, upgrades will be downloads. A number of packages on there are used for integration testing. So, I pull down dash on every checking for several of my projects. In time, I am sure dash will become the most downloaded package because of this. Once Emacs switches to git, I would guess the percentage of people on this list who do not install magit will shrink to a tiny number. My guesses are often wrong though! Phil