From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:57:58 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87wq81v92x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ppe1pldu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761ft5wpo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k349b0vj.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnph96kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppdwo7ll.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <543BE7CB.9040801@cs.ucla.edu> <87egubopls.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bnpfyjaf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87a94zoo57.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83h9z77p7d.fsf@gnu.org> <8761fnnne9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <543D8186.9000101@cs.ucla.edu> <87mw8ym3no.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <543E0BFD.4020700@cs.ucla.edu> <878ukhn6n3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83fvep665h.fsf@gnu.org> <877g01murc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413374319 19815 80.91.229.3 (15 Oct 2014 11:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:58:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 15 13:58:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDq-0002CZ-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:58:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDp-0006Kx-SL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52583) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDh-0006Hb-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDb-0002g3-38 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:58:21 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41187) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDa-0002er-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XeNDZ-00021f-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:58:13 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f425e3.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.37.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:58:13 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f425e3.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:58:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f425e3.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i1MX7/lHmJZA7WIz4mT7p7CmaGY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175401 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > I never made such an argument. My argument is that Emacs is alone in > choosing this particular "reasonable way to support encodings", and > that makes it difficult to cooperate with other projects ... such as > Guile. "cooperate with" and "meld with" tend to raise substantially different issues. Emacs is perfectly well equipped to cooperate with a lot of other projects not least of all because of its unusually diverse support of encodings. But of course it is a perfect nightmare to reimplement Emacs on the basis of a system with a less polymorphic history. -- David Kastrup