From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 23:31:07 +0000 Message-ID: <87wq5c8ybo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419723096 28568 80.91.229.3 (27 Dec 2014 23:31:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 23:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 00:31:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50pU-00035j-8G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:31:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57140 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50pT-0007gm-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:31:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38798) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50pH-0007gQ-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:31:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50pC-0007Kf-FS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:31:15 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:47475 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y50pC-0007KD-9k; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:31:10 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7FC9DAC0050; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:52:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCDC7608A5; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 23:31:07 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 27 Dec 2014 17:54:25 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180730 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > What would be success? > > My idea of the goal is > > 1. A spec for HTML-Info format, saying how the Info data such as > menus, indices and node structure navigation are represented > in HTML. > > 2. Something to generate HTML-Info from Texinfo input. > > 3. An extension for Firefox to implement Info-style commands > using that data. > > 4. Emacs Lisp code to browse HTML-Info files. > > #1 is conceptually prior to the others, but I would > develop it and #3 together. > > Any comments on this plan? > > Are you interested in working on it? What you are asking for is consistent with what I have been working on. I would say I have made a first pass at 1. and 2. and 3. (presuming 3 is ok as just a "normal" web application). I could start to do 4, as I've said. It is a BIG job. Getting really good Info like behaviour into a browser isn't trivial. It's also a thankless task (as I believe has been proved on this thread). Replacing Info in Emacs with an HTML based Info will also, I suspect, be thankless. I cannot commit to deliver this in the first quarter or anything like that. But I can promise to keep working on what I've got and making it better. What else would I need to do? Nic