From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 06:03:41 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87wq0o8xs2.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <83egpruiyp.fsf@gnu.org> <54E0FF93.2000104@dancol.org> <833865vp4d.fsf@gnu.org> <54E2355A.90@87.69.4.28> <83vbj1u020.fsf@gnu.org> <54E24CA4.9020601@dancol.org> <83h9uk7ddb.fsf@gnu.org> <54E382A5.5030408@dancol.org> <54F789B2.6030105@dancol.org> <87egnel6ac.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vbgpk1po.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85mw20gmeo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <871tiy9bhy.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430733833 5980 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2015 10:03:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:03:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 12:03:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDE0-0003mh-6S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 12:03:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33468 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDDz-0001IL-Lm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 06:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47333) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDDs-0001ID-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 06:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDDn-0001xx-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 06:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDDn-0001xl-AP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 06:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YpDDl-0003do-F6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 12:03:29 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 May 2015 12:03:29 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 May 2015 12:03:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tf7+6ijznip7M7r4bt4ARfelKUo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186175 Archived-At: On Sun, 03 May 2015 20:16:03 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> IMHO Emacs should manage memory, period. Any time modules are given that >> responsibility, it's an opportunity for bugs and a premature >> optimization. SM> It's an illusion to think that all memory management can be moved to the SM> Emacs side. But I think the best way to move most of it to the Emacs SM> side is to let the modules benefit from the Emacs's GC, and hence export SM> the "GC protocol" to the modules side. Exactly. I should have said "Emacs should manage its memory." Ted