From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:56:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87wpus9wyg.fsf@web.de> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83vbadp69k.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444647520 17512 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 10:58:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 12:58:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlaoI-0007pZ-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:58:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54439 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlaoH-00050H-Vw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 06:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlamq-0003Vp-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 06:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlamm-0006hw-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 06:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40489) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlamm-0006hi-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 06:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlamg-0006TD-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:56:50 +0200 Original-Received: from ip-90-186-2-115.web.vodafone.de ([90.186.2.115]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:56:50 +0200 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by ip-90-186-2-115.web.vodafone.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:56:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-90-186-2-115.web.vodafone.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MMBRiqqu+DiEx2L3Bs8RSN/8Mt0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191312 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It's all a pipe dream, no more, unless someone steps forward who > really intends and is able to do the job. And that is even before we > start talking about which alternative language should that be, > something that in itself is not a trivial decision. Of course could I also tell what my favorite language is and why we should rewrite Emacs in it. But Eli is right - this probably will just not happen now. IMHO it would be better to concentrate on problems where we can be productive. Like answering Richards question in "Intro to Emacs Lisp Programming and lexical variables" where he asked whether the manual should be updated for lexical scoping. If we don't even have the manpower to answer such a simple question after one month, we maybe should defer rewriting Emacs. Yes, dreaming is fun, but also the annoying tasks need to be done. Michael.