From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:16:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87wpukould.fsf@T420.taylan> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <8737xf9je9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kusx8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhb26eb9.fsf@gnu.org> <876126key3.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv1a6bfu.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1weo7u9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zizi3qr0.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhb1n81y.fsf@gnu.org> <83si594wt3.fsf@gnu.org> <87io64iigs.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kso1gr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wpuks5ek.fsf@T420.taylan> <83vba4i1z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp0cqgjf.fsf@T420.taylan> <83twpoi0sp.fsf@gnu.org> <878u70qf75.fsf@T420.taylan> <83mvvghydi.fsf@gnu.org> <5623E3B5.8050407@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445195845 6780 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2015 19:17:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 18 21:17:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZntSN-0006oa-Bo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 21:17:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35260 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZntSM-0005DR-Jd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZntRq-0005D9-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:16:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZntRp-0001BK-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:36886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZntRp-0001BG-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 15:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: by wicfv8 with SMTP id fv8so50720350wic.0 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:16:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=CQNq3aGCJs+QMxCkIjrZfAw2I2EE8Dvgyfn2Tso19kY=; b=IyisaUrKfySuEKOYtrgiZ0YAAk36Y0+QqvJAB5M5xehMarzK8qUuHVHx+Ta1WpUnLi 9Y/4D6U1BvALwUUzqXBVVymmotVdsxKSN66JQj8aVebkX9/nNqAUseZbAbz73F+AQ8Dv z50QXky/63nH636ejbaWAZhPgxP5O63gUuVT6ap9JVLs5hSeC6KAPxRXBX+rZdDEkx0n Q59ysxV5drIEK6j5gfsHOmCOWEqtZMGdDD8bA2vHmAeHEPm4FjhzftxZDcCKvODGlVXt 4/gL59a2Ov9kK3RebACwPpmHQl0qBjTmnEkB9Uqdp2Oy2s24ZZazwoIp5iAEcNZX+SEF EKHQ== X-Received: by 10.180.85.165 with SMTP id i5mr7875781wiz.79.1445195808409; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from T420.taylan ([2a02:908:c32:4740:221:ccff:fe66:68f0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xt1sm35555039wjb.32.2015.10.18.12.16.47 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Oct 2015 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5623E3B5.8050407@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:23:49 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192005 Archived-At: Daniel Colascione writes: > On 10/18/2015 10:52 AM, John Wiegley wrote: >>>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>> When we need to use Guile APIs from Emacs. That's one of the advantages of >>> using Guile: that it implements a lot of functionality which it would be >>> good to have in Emacs. >> >> Total agreement! I've been wanting a Guile-based Emacs since 1998, if for no >> other reason than that I could have used call/cc in Eshell, instead of the >> horrendous CPS hack that exists there now. > > You have generators in elisp already. Wanting to use one language is, > IMHO, a poor choice for wanting to completely swap out a language. I am > opposed to Guilemacs, not only on technical grounds, but also because > elisp is essential to Emacs (and not just an optional extension system), > and I want its implementation to live alongside the rest of the Emacs > core code. GuileEmacs would improve Elisp. See first two points in Overview here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GuileEmacs Taylan