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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:08:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wptnlbl6.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAAdUY-LXSxWuFkByucSk=gCDTZEAJCa1hPEdAbx9Cd6fp7jrcw@mail.gmail.com

Hi Artur,

Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> writes:

>> >I share this sentiment.  I love most of the electricity and it should be
>> >on by default IMHO.
>> >
>> >But the change to C-o is for the worse.  It should be "dumb" also at
>> >columns greater than zero.
>
> Hi Rasmus and David.
> Could you give an example (similar to what I did) illustrating why you
> prefer the dumb behaviour on columns grater than 0?
> i.e., when is it more convenient to break an indented line in half and have
> the second half be unindented?
>
> I'm willing to revert this change, but I'd really like to give a reasoning
> on the commit message.

For C-o I expect a newline to be inserted.  Nothing else.  If I want
indentation I already have RET.  If I want to return to point I have 
C-x C-x.

An example of when I use C-o is when I have to manually indent stuff,
e.g. if Emacs is not smart enough to do a good job /all of the time/.  A
case is d3.js code, where periods are typically aligned.

You may say that this is an example of separate bug (and indeed there
exists a bug report on JS mode alignment), but to the extend that
misbehaviors (even "subjective misbehaviors") exists, it’s very useful to
have dumb behavior available.  Here’s an example of d3.js.  I may want to
insert a new attribute before the width, without affecting the current
indentation.  I’d then use C-o.

    var svg = div.append("svg")
                 .attr("width", box_plot.w)
                 .attr("height", box_plot.h);

Rasmus

-- 
Need more coffee. . .




  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-12 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-11 18:08 Questioning the new behavior of `open-line' Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 18:51 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 18:58   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 19:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 19:13       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 19:39         ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:17             ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:33               ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 20:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:58                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:08                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:13                     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12  7:59                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:53                     ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 21:52               ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12  0:08                 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12  8:06                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 10:00                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 11:08                       ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-11-12 11:18                         ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-12 13:11                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 14:16                           ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:44                             ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 14:52                               ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:54                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 15:38                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:20                                     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 16:33                                       ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
     [not found]                                         ` <CAAdUY-LVoXm-c+Cv8Gx6h+d40YDoK4rJp1U6Tw+Gc+yCOVee=g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-13  1:17                                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-13  6:04                                             ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2015-11-14 12:34                                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 19:39                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-17  0:42                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17  0:53                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17  3:46                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-17 22:57                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-17 23:16                                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-18 17:25                                                           ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-17 23:20                                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-18 20:32                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-18 21:03                                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-19 23:34                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-19 23:57                                                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 21:59                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 14:57                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:09                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 15:26                               ` Rasmus
2015-11-11 20:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:28           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:00               ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:17                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 21:30                   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 22:40                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 19:20       ` Paul Eggert
2015-11-11 19:25         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:50 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 22:24 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 21:31   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:46     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12  7:38 ` Andreas Röhler

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