From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joost Kremers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87wppx4nyf.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <56C43D17.7010009@alice.it> <831t8aufoe.fsf@gnu.org> <8737sp51vx.fsf@gmail.com> <83fuwpubpn.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc9ahav.fsf@fastmail.fm> <834md5u426.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5l664f.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83mvqxrqql.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4ag3l7s.fsf@gmail.com> <83si0or96s.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g8366a.fsf@gmail.com> <83fuwor0u5.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8mwqw0y.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456099029 8868 80.91.229.3 (21 Feb 2016 23:57:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, Kaushal Modi To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 00:56:58 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aXds1-0002y3-61 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:56:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45123 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXdrx-0005yN-Cu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57509) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXdru-0005yF-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXdrq-0007ev-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:50 -0500 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:41376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXdrp-0007eb-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87F820743 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:43 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=R6muC o+E+xbDVjVlv1s0dKSX4fY=; b=BDbGvF4QvbAx56NZ9xz/LSSVpKLZ4nRH3fIpl iOfJQBqYxdaH2lvDrCzQIqPZ4pC2Sr2jt/HbyGy11ixx8J/uHVnmUS24riuztuA7 9ymPJkmmhaHLyUuFCAxZ5jWhIN4Z5KSWj0afS+C81fs9YelbtPEmSBkDYmA63E/E ghaALo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=R6muCo+E+xbDVjVlv1s0dKSX4fY=; b=o5rqT B5iZj7Pl+cErXZslhiR4gxA+toVr1SUm2fp0UJi80dEA6cTuB70jFPVIsbSa2L5I weLkkCrPtXd1q1w4q6slFtmOyqlOZxTd/e/QZqh5hoGgymdgWBT3FcNQrpjQ6/gI m2h6EtHskN+hh94pIx4PqTKMnyi8vpTl56i0Ko= X-Sasl-enc: ZUAdU0P8FZccLYj7Hdd0BLL/AkXQCBLq7GH/JHCWaPb9 1456099003 Original-Received: from IdeaPad.messagingengine.com (x5f774c4a.dyn.telefonica.de [95.119.76.74]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A5E88C00016; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:56:42 -0500 (EST) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.50.1 In-reply-to: <83a8mwqw0y.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200409 Archived-At: On Fri, Feb 19 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Again, not very different from any other customization that differs > between machines. Users should be able to replace Custom forms with > plain Lisp code, and then they could resolve the issues with sharing > the settings across different machines and with Git easier. > > I already said all of that several times, so I will now shut up, > unconvinced. Unconvinced of what, if I may ask? And what has now been decided (if anything)? Will there be an option to keep package.el from writing `package-selected-packages' to `custom-set-variables'? And what will happen if I set this option? Do I *have* to setq `package-selected-packages' or can I also leave it nil? Should I expect any adverse effects if I do that (other than the fact that packages won't be installed automatically, of course). Since I use use-package anyway, I'd prefer it if I could just leave `package-selected-packages' unset. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments