From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:45:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87wowyjdkp.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <3ovactap4b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87sh7wi2up.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87muy35b97.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524487544 32025 195.159.176.226 (23 Apr 2018 12:45:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:45:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 14:45:40 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAaqh-0008Do-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:45:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44196 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAaso-0001yT-0y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:47:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35465) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAarl-0001tN-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:46:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAarh-0000EO-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:46:45 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:51508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAarh-0008Gx-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uUzVN2bJWzMbhlBFP5VFz4kB1z4cf7boU4LeCaHFKaY=; b=XAEXjSAkXYwVEClK8a+DAlxNh t5xvDLD71XW0tAMGfjwU/EPj4j0VoyXjERiFNmcgy1RlEkCih+BXuyDC9q38CbnFlZLW6qNeCkaQi izl6Vfqf5UA3jXqhUKg/zm37wEux2wQflsX8X6A6opGSfDLvgDGWH2sQb2wVZ3wYgmVXr5E1Eap7B oHv+C5dI4LxeVFp+Si93EDVGoiAnRBBmkUJHFqlFeHWLoRYdYDDdrK4nuxAcKA0BCj1DP5Otnx4TO m6ZiJ3isDmhfWU7szeX3FBldqdenMEvJViLSthvdxNFToD9gyKvjTYEQjVRR/DrX69+0BlPOeY3D2 FKwzfU6iw==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:50353 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fAar0-0030jT-2r; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:45:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87muy35b97.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:09:24 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224802 Archived-At: Achim Gratz writes: > Phillip Lord writes: >> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=feature/integrated-elpa >> >> uses package.el during the build process of Emacs, so that ELPA packages >> could be added as packages. It requires more work. In the end, my own >> feeling is that this is the right way. We could dramatically slim down >> core Emacs to be enough to run package.el. The release would then be >> "core plus what ever packages we think are important at the time". > > I think the point of contention previously was not from people using Git > anyway for all their builds, but from folks attuned to using tarballs. > So I think there'd need to be a way to create a tarball that looks like > a proper Git checkout of the release, probably with some info put > somewhere to record the exact state of these various checkouts at the > time of the archive creation and a build process that picks those up as > appropriate. This is actually quite straight-forward. One of my branche has this: working/stream: Makefile.in ./bin/deploy-to-core 110b174643707 stream 110b174643707 is the git hash while "deploy-to-core" pulls out the code for stream (from ELPA) and dumps it into the core structure. Phil