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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v10-v6sm7173888wrm.18.2018.07.22.07.18.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Jul 2018 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <831sbvxsz3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 22 Jul 2018 17:09:20 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::433 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227671 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes >> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 12:16:48 +0200 >> Cc: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora >>=20 >> joaotavora@gmail.com (Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora) writes: >>=20 >> > +your program and keep a change log. In these situations, you may not >> > +want to keep a separate versioned change log file. If >> > +@code{add-log-dont-create-changelog-file} is non-@code{nil}, commands >> > +like @kbd{C-x 4 a} (@code{add-change-log-entry-other-window}) will >> > +record changes in a suitably named temporary buffer instead of a file, >> > +unless such a file already exists. >>=20 >> So if add-log-dont-create-changelog-file is t, but ChangeLog exists as >> a file on disk, the entry goes there and not in the non-file ChangeLog >> buffer? > > Yes. > >> That would be surprising to me. > > Why surprising? First, this is the current behavior, so this way we > are less incompatible; and second, that's why the option has "create" > in its name. > > Maybe I'm missing something. It has create, but it also has 'dont'. I guess I can see how it makes sense if you already have a ChangeLog file lying around. Anyway, I don=CA=BCt think I feel strongly enough about this to suggest a change. Robert