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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 03:02:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wo7rodi6.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM-tV-85aNnTtDypC20=_-po-jOGmEcxVf9ay0Q9ZfHPUXHpGQ@mail.gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:36:14 -0400")

Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> writes:

> Actually, it only fails if you evaluate the (defun my-make-counter
> ...) with lexical-binding off.

That's what I expected, too, but I tested it quickly and it was as I
said...sorry, it's late here.  Maybe byte compiling the source also
makes a difference?

> > Were does M-: break for you with the change?
>
> Please, let's not go in circles. An example was already given
> upthread: https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2020-03/msg00219.html
>
> Essentially some cc-mode variables are only declared dynamic locally
> within individual files. Without lexical binding the only difference
> this causes is that they are unbound at top level; but with
> lexical-binding, outside of the declaring files (e.g., in M-:
> expressions), let-binding those variables doesn't bind the value
> dynamically.

I meant "real" examples (that are not actually coding errors).  I
guess, like let-binding a variable that is not (yet) declared around an
expression whose evaluation will autoload the declaration but it's too
late for that binding and you get something unexpected.

Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-11  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-07 11:29 lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 17:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 18:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 18:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:30             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 19:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:56                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 20:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 20:15                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-11  2:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 20:10                 ` John Wiegley
2020-03-09 21:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 21:27                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 21:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 22:30                     ` John Wiegley
2020-03-10 19:13                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:49                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-10 20:16                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:54                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-07 23:28                             ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2020-03-10 20:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 21:02                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:02                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:33                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11  3:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 21:14                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:53                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 23:41                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  1:36                             ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11  2:02                               ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2020-03-13  0:46                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11  3:06                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:47                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-13  2:32                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  2:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 22:39                           ` John Wiegley
2020-03-09 20:22                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-09 22:05                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 18:41                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 19:41                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 20:44                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11  3:06                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-08 19:39             ` Stefan Monnier

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