From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving icons shipped with Emacs (was: "Why is emacs so square?") 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247273 Archived-At: ndame writes: > The Gnome icons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Desktop_icons > are apparently for an earlier, obsolete version. I downloaded the indicated > version (gnome-icon-theme 2.20.0) and the files in it were last changed in 2007, > but the icons still look nice. > > Emacs could benefit from using these icons too, even if they are obsolete, > because they are consistent and look good. Agreed. We could also add more GTK icons to x-gtk-stock-map as a temporary measure for right now, since they are the icons that are used in X11/GTK builds of Emacs, and my anecdotal experience tells me that's the version of Emacs most beginners are likely to use. In the long term, we really need to get rid of the legacy icons, many of which are derived from the original X Window System distribution, and are beginning to look highly out-of-date.