From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ricardo Wurmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:38:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87wo16c77t.fsf@elephly.net> References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 10:38:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFCf4-0004uu-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:38:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFCf3-0005B6-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFCeI-0004GV-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from sender4-of-o51.zoho.com ([136.143.188.51]:21177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFCeF-0005m2-NV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:37:13 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1599467824; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=KWicfcmHEXhO++J/vIB0qhvixAcBOZg6upX9/8f8ktIx/p8Bfg4Dm4pnyAS/Ccj6OL7HuvJfK0htcl82RgWhfQ6NOkEI7MoJ1fukMRAjSc0McZI4thS1f7UiM3QMxvUQhdWJ784IZDBENe+ZThqR9/hnxYo272swmKhaoy/z15o= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1599467824; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=vTL2YuQkkrLNk7fdG7lZ4L29/B4GSXfeowATnQzqrVA=; b=NwuvQwhfvCqv776ru7E/qARQiURTmdPbpYq7fbHZkoKzUEPV/i3kjXYlHUe/FTnbzUlXuaDfQ84xPFyhTE7+qeQnFBY/NKe8UbEmNoMcXvtVBTQgUkXKtw2tzyIlPjzrBlECCN+es2TNdCfEuWlFRWnqiQf+NuTGQXA9TSUXyvc= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1599467824; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=vTL2YuQkkrLNk7fdG7lZ4L29/B4GSXfeowATnQzqrVA=; b=Ls0r7iPIJg1H3kzxA4Z/UscWjm2OiAUSF2T8OqCwEFesNXesTswDxk7ANm2OHzKm 4DGWoUxDd9sElieVx4K+hQy4hWATyJsZHS/Mf/9ug7WOWOZ2panpF8x68ZMba6GGJ3S sJG4PZtCBLCZDqRSQQPIjpBUcQsNtVw4v+9hKCUk= Original-Received: from localhost (p54ad4c4f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.76.79]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1599467822916818.4453834131482; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 01:37:02 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.51; envelope-from=rekado@elephly.net; helo=sender4-of-o51.zoho.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/07 04:37:05 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254616 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions. w= rites: > Ergus: >> >> There actually are serious market studies, company studies, >> application studies, ergonomic studies supporting dark mode. >> > > I'd like to see some of these studies. "Dark mode" goes against what > so many people have been doing for centuries (think of books for > example) that I'm really curious to see why they were wrong. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28904-x =E2=80=9CWe found that reading dark text on bright background reduces choroidal thickness in one hour, while reading bright text on dark background increases the thickness of the choroid. Since choroidal thickness changes are precursors for future changes in eye growth, we expect that there will be selective effects on subsequent myopia development.=E2=80=9D --=20 Ricardo