From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Philip K." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:08:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87wo11fz4m.fsf@posteo.net> References: <83k0x2j7fu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11758"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 17:09:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOCC-0002xY-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:09:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38356 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOCB-0004H9-Q6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36536) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOBa-0003on-UA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:39037) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGOBY-0005ic-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:08:30 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 058FD2400FD for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:08:26 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1599750507; bh=yd/TpVyM/dnkGNQWcxdt9LW9b6lf7ddDVPPGWVvigPo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=rDA4Ap8iGipynDDJm9yMz6e4f0YRWXiQkj1fUj5lVsXmMjmU6umvFlXYPXyQs8cPA kFa60zojQjj08nzQlgbCCIyLfIf/5CteOqLszwUZLJ9SuW3k0xsuTXnxbGkYmNPT6H 5J0CtPfcaEQMRz11TYRRNNujy/ANAAmpiQJuuw83BHvY+PR8KM9YN3H1ClpP0/G6yf GfOcyMtIKxAIg0aWOip8pXvXo/Glcm+vehq7scDSRi02zXcBBwFQD4Eol6uKzFem5j /1l0mxeQJa3byMc+Tif4gRHXgKxBoTR+wukY57r+LK3/OIfuKuHlobVmWvEVvD1oWU hQthIu3SDhUgQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4BnMhp34zLz9rxH; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:08:26 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83k0x2j7fu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:40:37 +0300) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/10 11:08:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255012 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Philip K." >> Gcc: nnfolder+archive:sent.2020-09 >> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 19:14:29 +0200 >> >> And regarding modernizing defaults, how about bundling a few "themes" >> that enable/disable a few settings. It might be confusing at first, as >> most people associate themes with visual customisations, but since Emacs >> interprets the term more generally, adding themes such as "Modern" that >> enables more bells and whistles (I'm not too enthusiastic about the >> name, some might have chosen "Hipster" instead :^)), "Minimal" that >> reduces UI, etc. might be a compromise between the fractions that want >> to make Emacs appealing to newcomers and those that don't want to break >> Emacs' way-of-operating by default. > > We already have a couple of such themes, so the issue of us accepting > such themes doesn't exist. Oh, I didn't know that? Is this being done in a separate feature branch? > P.S. Please review your MUA settings, because they just caused Emacs > to exclude the mailing list from the recipients, something that is > unwanted. My apologies, again, I use Gnus to follow the mailing list, but forget that unlike Rmail, it doesn't reply to every when 'R' is pressed. -- Philip K.