From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 17:43:55 +0300 Message-ID: <87wo0xspn8.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: <20200909165723.kdnwicwvplmezusr@Ergus> <20200910102000.2t6tsju745xutg7u@Ergus> <20200910110832.ko66gqnqo4l664d6@Ergus> <20200911134225.zhnlq7cdhmu2iraj@Ergus> <20200911221435.go7b5kz2zcvxp2ft@Ergus> <20200912153723.ymnq3i5pugqf7lsy@Ergus> <87r1r6j488.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8maj1kh.fsf@gmail.com> <874ko2t8be.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <87zh5urnfa.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 16:44:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHTFG-0004gY-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:44:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38478 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHTFF-00049W-7t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHTEZ-0003e1-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:53731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHTEX-0007Ge-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:44:03 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 31.177.204.112 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [31.177.204.112]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19AEAE0002; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:43:56 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.196; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay4-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/13 10:43:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255495 Archived-At: On 2020-09-13 17:26 +03, Gregory Heytings wrote: > Please look again. When you open VS Code for the first time, you have > a big "Welcome" tab opened. It contains four sections. One of them > is "Customize", and has three big buttons. The third one is "Color > theme". I think that I haven=E2=80=99t seen it to this day is interesting. Wonder = if there=E2=80=99s data / research on how effective these screens are. > Another section is "Help", with pointers to a cheatsheet, introductory > videos, and so forth. > > This "Welcome" tab will be shown every time you start VS Code, until > you untick "Show welcome page on startup". > > The proposal I sent on this list yesterday is to do something like > this for Emacs. These are not things that I disagree. Where we disagree is the effect size of these, and I think you=E2=80=99re exaggerating the effects of the s= tatus quo a bit. Guess we=E2=80=99ll agree to disagree there. Sorry if my tone was irritating / agressive at any time. -- =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427