From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:01:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnzt1mnw.fsf@gnus.org> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <1F8F3522-1E6C-40A3-B61A-B9B84FC0AD18@gnu.org> <87blh9gthg.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuv1f2y9.fsf@gnus.org> <83mu0s50if.fsf@gnu.org> <87blh8fm11.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0vv2xzt.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn5naro3.fsf@gnus.org> <831ri22nsk.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24338"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 06:02:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSXzs-0006E0-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:02:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSXzr-0008RF-LS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSXyc-0007uB-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:43578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSXyZ-0008Jm-1l; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:01:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=sdthAmT1Bg5ZEe2dUKr6LYLfRzh/+MrKlP2gPX9B0PI=; b=rfa07NXVNGqLJhT+BcvvnH9cN3 ZCBpIHJFL9y/GJGRdY2+M8/DPqmQv5GESDE2WI0WVxyagI2HzgwAym/oTXwcH2ERo/wIC8Ybdn1iL 35rdAmIb0+8WHkwceVRLCujkM9O7fWl3M+3uTwm9Z/NaY9dPJyrHZa2o/aAYzsgnB6EQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSXyO-0004YP-7Y; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:01:14 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX4mS/9qC/cZTXE OjnNjDGaajBCMTHJjTJrTDH8ukb7zmv8xFb23Y3///8dEh2UAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+QKDgMqCmaWB8kAAAFJSURBVDjLvZM/T4QwGIdbjIlj30vJiS7YjyBfQAYS3e4SazpqornVG/wz OmhkZXDQmxwvTDdSvoHxQ0lBaAslRgffjT78nr59KQhVBWYRpAt6NQo6hseItod44oWM4Qa0AcLY Yci2WNQC0sY9FHoeQt4RVwAPdtjmlzUw+1cPd8m9M7HzLFJRgy5zzB8JTW4fUk5NVeXw51wIcROT uAKmSPhXqbiGhM9Vgmiw2H3ygfLT5uR6nZ5PZ9X6SV6ArZpewJJwXAayUEATsnhZ+jOQq/LdVsEZ hyCXZb6X9bqiMWRyvd7kYKtUZSCL/Q3YB/wuGdQADz9spiKDGb4Wb8Wqd8BG9PlR1ioYKecNAZfq 58R/7PFbFakS5nUwgLrU2Kly/1F/BM6OEbE3p3qICKx227cQiXqmFnhR6Fgegs6LJtGBe4hj33B0 7F+qim5HHhx/gQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMC0xNFQwMzo0MjoxMCswMDowMP8g FZ8AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTAtMTRUMDM6NDI6MTArMDA6MDCOfa0jAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: B. Fleischmann's _Welcome Tourist (1)_: "The Blessed" In-Reply-To: <831ri22nsk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:39:07 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257605 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think if we want to keep the fields in their places, we should > consider the mode line to be tabular. I don't think a tabular mode line is something that would be practical. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no