From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: How to do a beta release on ELPA? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258411 Archived-At: Hi all, we've worked hard lately to make GNU AUCTeX use lexical-binding. That was quite some work with certain deeper and also some incompatible changes which could bite some users, especially those who have written custom style files. I think it's all for the better but there are chances that some users might need to do some manual tweaking to their customization and styles when upgrading. We just made a last tarball release 12.3 and ELPA release 12.3.1 without lexical-binding, and now our master branch contains the relevant lexical-binding changes. I don't think there are too many people running straight from our master branch, so I guess we should do a new ELPA release pretty soon to get more testing. But is there a way to release a new ELPA version just for the adventurous? I currently see only these two options: 1) Make a separate auctex-beta package which would just be the same as the normal one except with a more recent release. 2) Just do a normal ELPA release and if things break for some users tell them how to pin auctex to version 12.3.1 for the time needed to fix their issues. With option 1), I eschew the amount of maintenance required. And what should packages do that depend on auctex? Now they need to depend on auctex or auctex-beta. Oh, and we'd need to declare both of them as being incompatible to each other. And the beta package should just be a very temporary thingy, nothing that's still available and falsely attracting users in a year from now... With option 2), I guess it could harm users who don't know how to reach out for help. Are there any other (preferably better!) options? Bye, Tassilo