From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball - take 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:08:37 +0000 Message-ID: <87wnvupwii.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <86tuqz35f1.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <874kizz6t0.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86pn1n2sp7.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39957"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 30 11:09:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nCC-000AHK-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:09:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41022 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nCB-0003gt-US for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:09:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nBK-0003DP-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:37094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nBI-0006cT-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 05:08:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Tz2fTTTGsdSlq677c0nJIBqG8MA5Y6+1MDTm4a0nSUk=; b=TnczdBB/GhQDzb49zeG9uBKl3 HS02RGuE9BWpg9KQyxWdoysSdltln09dPCYUYGcTv0s6ke8IQUXP+VjtB4uzCaMSThY7Ai4nyvmN8 1NNiBefd8J5qaNQarzUyFrnJBTufOcl7FnSC/nr0lVibIyviYvdvF0O1p5QUGwBeu28x30dlo4Ijv v5Ujl+gjvr4ZI+qpjKBmxzTQDJNq07aOoxlOkCARdP0N4Tk2QkP+SSlm991niYTWR+sIT7l2ZGsGz 0QhXfd13saiUARvf0Km04XGUN/wcEwgurQTf5g2o728CJVt1qCHw7F7M/1Q9D65YFQDn9LCG4r2fT 61TQ3qMNQ==; Original-Received: from cpc142648-benw12-2-0-cust627.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.10.74.116]:41704 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1l5nBG-0003FS-1B; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 10:08:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86pn1n2sp7.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Fri, 29 Jan 2021 16:07:16 -0800") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.129.138.110; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263600 Archived-At: Stephen Leake writes: > Phillip Lord writes: > >> Stephen Leake writes: >> >> That will be a significant help, actually. I presume that any build >> would be missing bundled packages? > > I don't follow. > > If you mean "a build from an emacs directory tree", then it will have > whatever the developer checked out into that tree. > > > ./checkout_git_elpa_worktrees.sh > > then the build will have the bundled packages. > > The last option is indented for your Windows packaging workflow; it uses > git worktrees instead of submodules. Apologies that was a very badly worded question, but yes, you have answered it. I had missed the "checkout_git_elpa_worktrees.sh" option apologies. If that works it would require only a small update to my scripts so sounds excellent. Are you going to get this onto a branch first; I'll be happy to test the Windows packaging when you have. > If they do neither of these options, the build will not have the bundled > packages. > >> For me, this would not be a hassle because I'll just set it up so they >> install from ELPA on first use. > > This is with your emacs user hat on, I guess. Yes, using a build from an > emacs directory tree without bundled packages would require getting > those packages via M-x list-packages (or equivalent). Yes, that's as a normal user. >> It would still break my windows packaging scripts which use worktrees, > > It should not, as described above. Thank your taking the time and effort to think about this, it's really greatly appreciated! Phil