From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sqlite3 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:11:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87wnjn78fm.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <83y24g7dui.fsf@gnu.org> <8735mnr5cb.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl19zwwy.fsf@gnu.org> <87bl18g7r3.fsf@gnus.org> <83ee64ych1.fsf@gnu.org> <83o853pydo.fsf@gnu.org> <875yrbzjc5.fsf@gnus.org> <8335mfpox7.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmpjo79j.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilvbo2ab.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7avo1l6.fsf@gnu.org> <87o852cl7z.fsf@gnus.org> <83r19ym6vv.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0fqaxy8.fsf@gnus.org> <83o852m661.fsf@gnu.org> <83lf06m1ll.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8z99p1s.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnjolw37.fsf@gnu.org> <871r1waj1d.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmpglpun.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38234"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 16:12:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2acW-0009kj-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:12:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60986 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2acU-0003aP-Nh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2abl-0002ul-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:11:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=60470 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2abk-0002z2-6z; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:11:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=u0K4sVSF9byW+F/NH+JeTLXTfsou2S+MTP4WNGlA9sU=; b=uZ1SywefQx4rZWI/r90EmXEVkp uain6yCCZKhRzTOyWHCNo5Rsnn2fh7R6fYdSv4jmjYsTtXbE/puf9M9vTHSeiGhC5kTmrDlP0U/vN fbwpbVyEBwGNasrQyv5ngliLKBtCDZm+PM9ls6al0xwajUHSaG1UoEMakXOqsLq/5g5o=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2abe-00072U-Bt; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:11:13 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEW4t7VGR0qHhXv/ ///x/LKyAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UMHQ46Mgo+4CEAAAGxSURBVCjPnZHBitswEIZ/ RFMUHQuGdk9uaIKjpwhlL+0pBY9xdVoMhsRP4Zq2JDotJQohJ1XUxtZTdrx9g+qkb/5h5p8Z4H/e InfFiFY1NjJc3B+OpTYG4PXFmRGQKnoI2YqwpvrpFFsOyXerhOr9SXtAxO0vR/XB8h9ilSREx0Zn 2QxvtrOC7jCn3bUzUfnAeUm5uNx9qmK8MRST6dsMw1whKfrwA6maRAsiMnO7GH7vZiAqYlXFA5t6 W56PH/wo1MiwLte0wKQsuKn2S5PQs7IdKyJdmiuNme86hrDcOwrSZtwnevu0psMQKp60r05+TWW8 bDTSqbIzNNvYYzVVnxnMYYoDBIJsWbHDOI8K2T5QOdnR8sLw+O3KaWLzk4X2u3e1CTZq3mjj9gnD 7hSg+i914Zy5Ba+h6MjzkOE6G5zpExW6L6UMI8Oxzl9tykzrgJ52fYkpV21nX2Avmhyru8VAO7sX 4gKpI66uu7GpOzqtMWjM8ID3Ywre3+zW8glTRNk9ppkQEBwbFsfi/nweRLsCcj7b13JqFOcjd0Su 7Cu2mf5b/K2vPipWXqAh4yXwF3+OrVImlzwHAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTEyLTI5 VDE0OjU4OjQ5KzAwOjAwLcSN4wAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0xMi0yOVQxNDo1ODo0 OSswMDowMFyZNV8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Four Tet's _Paws_: "Hilarious Movie Of The 90's (Manitoba Remix)" In-Reply-To: <83pmpglpun.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:18:56 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283565 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > That'd be fine by me, I think updating the same value simultaneously > from several Emacsen is a pretty corner use case anyway. Now done. > We can delay the solution until someone really needs that, and > explains why. We do need to say something about the races in the > docs, I think. Do we need to say more than it does? Which is: -- But note that this is done without locking, so if many instances are updating the value at the same time, it's unpredictable which instance ``wins''. -- -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no