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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286359 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: >> I'd suggest something more explicit, like >> >> We do not recommend that you use this configuration, unless you are >> running a window system that's supported by GDK, such as Wayland or >> Broadway. Running this configuration on X is known to have >> problems, like ... >> >> (describe a couple of problems instead of the ellipsis). > > Yes, I think it needs to be this explicit. The suggested entgry from Po > Lu is still too oblique and fails to be explicit about known issues. > Something also seems "wrong" with a statement which includes "is > supposed to work". Eli's suggestion does seem much better. I'll install something to those lines soon. Thanks.