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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287022 Archived-At: Protesilaos Stavrou writes: > [ Sorry! Forgot to include emacs-devel. ] You should be able to edit and resend a message if that happens. >> [ Read below ] >> >>> PS: More seriously, I wonder why you named it "logos" which to me >>> doesn't suggest much more than "language", which would seem to be >>> only distantly related to focusing on "a page at a time" display. >> >> I thought it relates to "language" since it might help with reading, >> writing, presenting/talking, reasoning (another meaning of "logos"). >> Also because I could not think of a better name... >> >> Besides, silliness is my speciality when coming up with backronyms: >> >> 1. ^L Only Generates Ostensible Slides >> 2. Logos Optionally Garners Outline Sections >> >> I understand "logos" does not help with discoverability. If there is a >> more appropriate and succinct name I am willing to update things >> accordingly. I kind of agree with Stefan's point, though in my case the first meaning that came to mind was "reason"[0]. As the package is useful, it would be a shame for people not to miss is because of the name. Intuitively, I would say it should make a reference towards narrowing and page/section navigation. Maybe also that it is useful for presenting? I can't come up with a good name right now either. [0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BB%CF%8C%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%82#Ancient_Greek -- Philip Kaludercic