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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>
Cc: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 5c532fe303: Recommend that the user turn off memory overcommit
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 21:57:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnfzr82y.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lewfbsa0.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> (Brian Cully's message of "Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:42:44 -0400")

Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org> writes:

> 	These features prevent Emacs from building, and I’d argue,
> constitute evidence of bugs in Emacs, as it’s operation is at odds with
> standard and necessary computer security. The wording in etc/PROBLEMS
> echoes this sentiment.

Whatever they might constitute, those changes might be required for
Emacs to build correctly.

> 	Your proposal crosses a line into how people should administer
> their systems even when Emacs functions as expected within the context
> of that system. ie, if I’m on Linux, overcommit is standard and I
> presumably know how to deal with it or am ignorant of it. In either
> event it is not the place of my text editor to tell me that memory
> overcommit is bad. There are countless opinion pieces on the web that
> will do that job just fine, should I seek them out.

None of this says that memory overcommit is "bad", it says that it's
detrimental to the correct functioning of Emacs.  (And "correct" here
means memory_full being called before Emacs is killed by the OOM
killer.)



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-08 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <164941780605.21656.13343783431945268284@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20220408113647.815ACC051D6@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-04-08 12:58   ` master 5c532fe303: Recommend that the user turn off memory overcommit Stefan Monnier
2022-04-08 13:23     ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-08 13:31       ` Po Lu
2022-04-08 13:42         ` Brian Cully
2022-04-08 13:57           ` Po Lu [this message]
2022-04-08 15:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-08 19:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-08 13:46         ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-09  0:23           ` Po Lu
2022-04-09  1:28             ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-08 19:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-09  4:17     ` Richard Stallman
2022-04-09  5:51       ` Tim Cross
2022-04-09  8:42       ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09  9:08         ` Po Lu
2022-04-09 10:08           ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09 10:27           ` Achim Gratz
2022-04-09  9:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-09 10:28           ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09 10:41             ` Eli Zaretskii

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