From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: plz Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 20:16:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87wneekayc.fsf@bernoul.li> References: <8735h3kukg.fsf@bernoul.li> <83tu9j86oi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13083"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 21 20:18:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTgG-0003CL-9l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 20:18:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38106 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTgE-0006T6-QA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:18:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTei-0005jE-5C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([212.243.197.30]:44906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsTeg-0004GQ-Ge; Sat, 21 May 2022 14:16:47 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2921216483; Sat, 21 May 2022 20:16:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bernoul.li; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:mime-version :message-id:date:date:references:in-reply-to:subject:subject :from:from:received:received; s=sel2011a; t=1653157003; bh=APi2L 8WmQpxIs+6W4AnN4R9tRVU5W69q9Iyw7dC7C2Y=; b=MuktVtLoepMitpCHAfZgZ aS9ZE4iDGJS+G4DvgokBttsk/j6ejGdacOefo2em8/56noktjmi9hiU3blAo2l3E 4tOuHKuNw7QfaEYazcSLpBLS6BLayv8zPJwrthJm9A7BadgE5+ZcmzZVaePIE0Zr Fhb50VBO2aocFZeWIoW2f4= X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id loqUqyGb6oK2; Sat, 21 May 2022 20:16:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF43716109; Sat, 21 May 2022 20:16:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83tu9j86oi.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.243.197.30; envelope-from=jonas@bernoul.li; helo=mail.hostpark.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290059 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Jonas Bernoulli >>=20 >> TL;DR Maybe this was overly negative. That wasn't my intention. What I >> really want to say is this: could someone=E2=84=A2 with experience in th= is area >> pretty please start working on bringing libcurl to Emacs? > > Are we confident enough that libcurl can satisfy Emacs's needs? > Shouldn't someone=E2=84=A2 first study our requirements and make sure the= y can > be fulfilled by using libcurl? It is not immediately clear to me that > the answer is YES because Emacs in many cases has some unique > requirements that other applications not necessarily have. No, not really. This is a layman's opinion based on the perceived success of this library. Maybe there are better solutions. Maybe another third-party library would be a better fit or maybe url.el just needs more loving. Then again, if curl is good enough to be used on Mars, then it should be good enough for Emacs. ;D