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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298030 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: >>>> I think it's a fine solution, but either comp-spawned-compilation >>>> should be renamed to comp-no-spawn, or its value in the forked Emacs >>>> processes should be nil... [...] > Okay 1a8015b837 should do the job. I eventually opted for adding > `comp-no-spawn' for now, seen the current "debated" situation on what we > should offer as interface to the user, I thought was better for now to > add a variable supposed to be used for internal use only. We can remove > it and link the mechanism to `native-comp-async-jobs-number' afterwards > if we decide for it. Is this supposed to fix the trampoline fork bomb? (There's a lot of stuff discussed in this thread...) If so, it doesn't, because the variable is set too late. (As Eli suggested in another thread, we should add a command line argument for this, and as I noted, that kind of fits with the stuff discussed in bug#58509.)