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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>,
	vibhavp@gmail.com, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2023 17:17:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wn2wrmgc.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lejcypyw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 01 Apr 2023 11:19:19 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> IOW, "best engineering practices" are for master; on the release
> branch, using existing code proven by time takes precedence, because
> our ability to predict consequences is limited.

This problem is not about engineering practices, but basic program
correctness.  Look at the GCC bug tracker: every release, a program
that relies on this undefined behavior becomes subtly broken, a bug
is filed against GCC, and is closed by the GCC developers, stating
that this behavior is unsupported.

Emacs 29 has been in development for less than three years... not nearly
long enough to be sure no subtle miscompilations have taken (or will
take) place.

If that's ``proven by time'', then so is this:

null_terminate (buffer, size)
  char *buffer;
{
  buffer[size] = '\0';
}

It might work for a few months, or a year, then suddenly break with a
new compiler release, or perhaps a change to malloc, or something else.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-01  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-30  9:34 HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Robert Pluim
2023-03-30 10:26 ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 11:09   ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Sam James
2023-03-30 12:18   ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arsen Arsenović
     [not found]     ` <87v8ihu3t8.fsf@yahoo.com>
2023-03-31  7:15       ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Robert Pluim
2023-03-31  7:45       ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-31 17:29     ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Mattias Engdegård
2023-03-31 20:13       ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-30 10:28 ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Mattias Engdegård
2023-03-30 11:38 ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Vibhav Pant
2023-03-31 16:57   ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Mattias Engdegård
2023-03-31 17:59     ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 18:03       ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Mattias Engdegård
2023-03-31 18:12         ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  0:45         ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Po Lu
2023-04-01  5:43           ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  6:31             ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Po Lu
2023-04-01  6:39               ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  7:42                 ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Mattias Engdegård
2023-04-01  8:19                   ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01  9:17                     ` Po Lu [this message]
2023-04-01 11:25                       ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 12:59                         ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-01 13:33                           ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 15:22                             ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-01 16:22                               ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02  0:50                                 ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Po Lu
2023-04-02  0:48                             ` HAVE_FAST_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Po Lu

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