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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a3db0fa5d74d702a347dcb63eccd8e28; Tue, 30 May 2023 13:03:36 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Gregory Heytings's message of "Mon, 29 May 2023 22:05:02 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21495 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306409 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: >>> You are apparently unaware that Rust guarantees backward >>> compatility of source code. >> >> I am unware of almost _everything_ about Rust >> > > The "you" above was not you (Richard) ;-) > >> >> Other people have told me that Rust changes very often, that it is >> unstable. >> > > That's incorrect, unless you use Rust's "nightly" version, which is > its experimental branch. Rust's "stable" is stable, and code that > builds with a stable version of the Rust compiler should build with > any later stable version of the Rust compiler. Except that a large quantity of code utilizes ``unstable'' features. As a result, changes to the ``nightly'' compiler often break large amounts of code, without a centralized place where the breakage can be fixed (i.e. Gnulib.)