From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The poor quality of Emacs's backtraces Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:00:17 +0000 Message-ID: <87wmz2j52m.fsf@localhost> References: <3D901B62-4826-4783-B684-968E6890E75A@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21574"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 14 10:01:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qKDjw-0005MW-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:01:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKDiv-0006yU-GE; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 04:00:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKDit-0006y5-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 04:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKDir-000605-Q7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 04:00:19 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28978240101 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:00:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689321615; bh=+kYvvZEWj9yK8jA74Jaa/0ouHlepa/gXBPMyjjWhbxc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=a5U2RLCbQETBqM9oY6fVH3tzpTinmpnc1/xIVxJ1IuEAxUsa4bpCwKv4ZR45/uxw3 cAJgOgl+BM7GeDqq/Z/GORqYTuS4W/8W6h5Dvi+JBiRyD6R0Is8PTy7IC9A0Xwk0cB eqHQz+NQKzCh42ejmafwOo8GsiIRmKxMQDstvUSR2RwalIaGaHkxG3kE1LYQQrIXP3 CGDcTyD9Wa2RrTORrHU2cbvkZ4GbFa2WV4GV5Bzs9WXNuwbPSiOjU5WN/lpcAJApYW Zl6ykv4u2vpPXxceRaOR+yZ6vO6BFz1DY3ZrC13yVNzc1rKVYeD/JJDos0PK80Nz4V haHhDXsYwM/bg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R2P660pqDz6txV; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:00:13 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3D901B62-4826-4783-B684-968E6890E75A@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307858 Archived-At: Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: >> test suite truncating every line at ~70 characters. (Why is this done?) > > I agree, that's annoying. We have to truncate at some point or we'll be t= reated to dumps of impractical size before we know it, but 70 chars is pret= ty useless. It would be nice if the backtraces used `pp' instead of dumb truncation. Though would make things much, much more readable. Of course, the `condition-case' created by ERT will still be an issue. --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at