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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307882 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Do you know of a machine where this would really happen? VAXen, of course, and possibly future machines that haven't been designed yet. I think I overheard some of the NetBSD porters talking about this problem.