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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314526 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman writes: > What we should do now, however, before installing anything, > is decide what architecture we want to use for collaborative editing. > > For instance, is this the right protocol to use? > Do we want to base communication on this protocol? The decision for OT seems to already be taken and may not be easy to change midflight, so I don=E2=80=99t know whether discussing this part has = much merit. > Should we base access control on logging in to some other sort > of service? Could we base it on access to a repo which is where > the shared document is to be stored? And which methods are already well-supported in Rust? 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