From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: with-editor seems like a bug fix Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:15:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87wmly22m4.fsf@gmx.de> References: <86frsz6i6v.fsf@gnu.org> <87o77miusp.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <8634oy65mo.fsf@gnu.org> <87msn4nh2p.fsf@gmx.de> <86wmm7j55c.fsf@gnu.org> <87ed8f531w.fsf@gmx.de> <86o77jj470.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5j34xv4.fsf@gmx.de> <86ikxrivuo.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfr33f50.fsf@gmx.de> <87frsrk2ak.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7871"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 06 13:15:45 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ3OL-0001rg-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:15:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ3O0-0007Yl-W3; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 07:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ3Ny-0007Y7-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 07:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sQ3Nx-0006C7-5M; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 07:15:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1720264516; x=1720869316; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=I4OdWdstW4s+8oOot1CzPtfiwZSc3wS/siJqCqQJkF0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=LMUUw5YVgNKW/ppHgBjnFKZyHgBnh+iVHp/Jb7PFqGx20Xq2jqfh267MmHpGfX6s qXEQFUC/AbX6Kts3Z6D40PpDmvR6BOl926nBNoVVHBfAM/9Qi22ZJNScPT/sm+PvK d6/RQ/Me9wX4jwbkbp0eE+1M4RzrjmfkvxJQ1vqzvvfFhajE0GQT+vzFIO33RCVk2 bQTLOP1oKhPOUuC79YxxydjRt+XS/XXKMrxSzpz4z6f5Poo5RDvK8XKgr4t14kOAs 5Bm/24m2orZlzX74ytWCIR2SXE7I1LsGiUWG0hJUJ2EF/QYLR0xmCMWDuTzayHSYJ Sk4HFQzlrvR+M8C4FA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MrQJ5-1s5Xkp1BZP-00pi4j; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:15:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87frsrk2ak.fsf@bernoul.li> (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Tue, 02 Jul 2024 21:43:31 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Mm1BZFvem5vODqXwV34qU7xlJjUcC0ydL0YQDkX22OFB+mEt+wx CbnkeKNdTcblzKZ2lcPmFxOSX1cvS7gcTG7iGh8GvWfC1VuAI6r3TUIQyACfzbV6bfOF3rr QbNOKHlJ+EZyZWxOoT37bBBIg3yNhFUmmmEnU21ZtbbDRig3z58yYMAZMLOCqX1ZJ0Hps8J x66Jg27gxUc4tQonBzTgA== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:PCATkYtl0Xw=;QGN2Hyq/EwJ8oA8eRzFvuROpOts VS9P552B61rIhEKbADJ1eUMpe3boY55SJG8ORP0TxLHkWpad5Nb950vcnHjXWUTlmKk4Bf2LQ w5KGTIzgLW/BLhTUzGHeldcvNXB9CSYvkw/qvOiv955BYp6Tl7VrOZvpoxUEhDh+cwrK5v+ff ASICdAYzweZpX6o1382EFJSYBZcTRzFLOpsG5GvhXe7s7QHTCBtc8T8kVJ71aw1cMlzUYmS5D m1d1nkyDJuciejxf1c8j9ZXoxqpoLGWB7CBn7KpY2oz8ZrXb5B9WvFVwm3dE0h2F3MrievA0y KUKgKEoan3XPG8xiPZ8AdnoOsuyNFBucsYcDHSwrJKXtmQaKLsfy+yWCB/k2XgBj4MsTt3Cd3 Ga5ZJ7/AqK37nVVg4f1HK5LKK9dWxQ+zzyO3kd21FMTDLECnNNqtJHTXEAMdLZxmjtuJjq5/p guedVXdlPGDhncS78H4CHLqMkUdS/pr4NBc/cNfofup5GnvextY5erVGWhAjFLFNbJdR26dol zoEtzyTt4ML4+qOf6JKs/KtmILAN7ejdQNTWphRgEtS2fkk7w5HW8Kz4IcV86MdLLSai+yxq6 J6qs9ZWUXcIlSghgWHzfPUyqScrFcjGQJ0ZyRNQBvYIrNx98K72EYuTTZX5QdK+qUJ3PWkohp 6QW26er8Xt47UNI3nZhi/VMbCpNyyDmY+DcJuJFPEu8oVc+7F+/T1M+KrSa8sDXn5w/r4RJxh 0zuhdtMf5tMxxHVIN1dPdpPZY+WA1MrS6o+VOAVFzkisUjiUXiVQtfsFxbg2Bcz7K0mEaTlB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.20; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321423 Archived-At: Jonas Bernoulli writes: Hi Jonas, >>>> - Use always emacsclient, locally or remote >>>> - Check for emacsclient only at the well know places >>>> - Recommend to use with-editor from ELPA if this fails >>> >>> I'd need to see the patch to understand what that means in practice. >> >> If Jonas agrees this approach, I could try to puzzle something together. > > Sounds good to me in principal. Sorry for the late reply. I'm very slow these days :-( > I am unsure whether you plan to add a stripped-down with-editor.el to > Emacs or implement the mentioned functionality in existing libraries. > The latter seems more reasonable to me (and I'm guessing that's what > you had in mind). Yes, the latter. I will implement this in several steps. For every step I'll write a bug report (severity wishlist) first, so we have a place to discuss. And not to poison the emacs-devel ML with our jabber :-) > Please also consider these features: > > - Add `server-window-alist'. This would allow both packages and users > to specify that certain buffers should be displayed differently from > the default specified by `server-window'. That's the first step. Bug#71971. > - Allow running `server-start' in multiple emacs instances, without > the user/package who calls that, having figure out if another instance > is already using the same name. I.e., something to replace: > > (unless (process-live-p server-process) > (when (server-running-p server-name) > (setq server-name (format "server%s" (emacs-pid))) > (when (server-running-p server-name) > (server-force-delete server-name))) > (server-start)) I'll check. > Cheers, > Jonas Best regards, Michael.