From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 12:47:50 +0000 Message-ID: <87wmkexaix.fsf@localhost> References: <87bk20yoya.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86zfpjirkg.fsf@gnu.org> <877ccnj9dp.fsf@localhost> <86bk1zhrf5.fsf@gnu.org> <874j7qkj97.fsf@localhost> <87y152x5v8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0aui7ay.fsf@localhost> <8634nahu9u.fsf@gnu.org> <87bk1xima6.fsf@localhost> <86jzgkheij.fsf@gnu.org> <87mslaytml.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11932"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, acorallo@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 18 14:47:56 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sffK8-0002v9-GI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:47:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sffJW-00031I-JD; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 08:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sffJD-00030D-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 08:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sffJ1-0001oo-Pr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 08:46:50 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA56C240028 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:46:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1723985205; bh=XuMSFPbP+csZdhiFFb1myDxmYunT8JhTE5Z1/qpzkao=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=P9LzS5efGPPUJO9vE2G21RPWby9TF5V4hG+vxuiVihTZpDPYj2MqUX1iwlgY41egr qBFNrQruzNPsTFP6hFKfRMOd6nZoS5PwNExjQgyeOX/YeTLnOlLP4fXt4s6mUBfYVw BioL8nvS8ShDhRWUOBHCQEFFB0z8LnyXFb7arxYyuHVPdnGiCbfBYD1QCihky//8ve 8iLBEi39k/cATS22d+IRAOMcOElpAkGpG6IeeEAaEgyzj/dFVDS25uQI8nQNcul9kY 4xuwKyXE+ArNk53mXboZ/TdfYvibx7AnZwFcVVsXFDNQxMeJ85RKJJWNu0sG/e5ZRU 9AmJsuzi0MhjQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WmwTd2p8Lz9rxB; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:46:45 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322888 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >>> We have etc/TODO which could be used as a source of ideas. >> >> Are there any specific todo items there that you view as more suitable >> for people with limited experience in Emacs codebase? > > I agree with many of the reservations Eli has, but on the other hand > this depends highly on what the projects will be. Perhaps this could be > a good way to attract new contributors, some of which will be found in > the already existing Emacs community (parts of which do not interact > much with emacs-devel). Yup. I want to have some kind of shortlist of tasks that the maintainers familiar with the code can suggest as student projects. Then, we can eventually go out to reddit/mastodon/reach Sacha Chua/Emacsconf to ask the community. > So I'm basically all in favor of GSoC, but someone needs to do the work > to get the ball rolling, for example with regards to suitable proposals. > If someone were to propose a list of projects, then it would be easier > for others to comment on it. This could potentially also be used to > expand the text that is currently in etc/TODO, to improve that file. > If that's possible, the effort will never be wasted. +1 > Another thing that would be useful in this regard is if people could > indicate their interest in mentoring students, even tentatively. > As for me, I _might_ have the time to act as mentor, but that is highly > tentative as I didn't consider or think about that very closely. It > would also depend on the project idea, of course. I am also considering mentoring, but that will be for Org mode. I think that it is a good idea to shortlist things from TODO file before asking potential mentors. Simply to prioritize projects that are deemed important by the maintainers. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at