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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324389 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman writes: > > From that I could imagine a similar approach to provide different > > installers that install a pre-configured Emacs for the specific task. > > Who would the chosen pre-configured Emacs be installed for? > For a site (affecting all users)? > For one particular user? The pre-configuration should only affect the user who chooses it. So it might be installed systemwide, but only actually setup the $HOME/.emacs.d/init.el when it is started the first time. > In any case, I don't think we would different versions _of Emacs_. > Wouldn't it suffice just to generate a .emacs file with a few > user options set? Yes =E2=80=94 the difference is not the implementation, but the workflow to= get that version. Reducing friction in that. If users on GNU Linux can just `apt-get install emacs-for-cpp`, then that emacs-for-cpp feels real. Even if the result is just a pre-configured .emacs.d/init.el If users on Windows can just get an installer of emacs-for-cpp, then that emacs-for-cpp feels real. Even if ... In both cases this could be an optimized configuration that enables people to have an instantly running, well-optimized system for that task. 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