From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why was the global-mode-string moved? Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:38:21 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87vg3gmhv6.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> References: <87n0ott31a.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <5xpttox2e5.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036230942 25687 80.91.224.249 (2 Nov 2002 09:55:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187v0H-0006gB-00 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 10:55:41 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 187v6m-0001SB-00 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:02:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187uzE-0003n0-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 04:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 187uje-0007XF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 04:38:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 187ujZ-0007WI-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 04:38:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gci-net.com ([216.183.68.100] helo=gci-net.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187ujY-0007UX-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 04:38:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [216.183.69.146] (HELO aris) by gci-net.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP-TLS id 3140292 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:37:53 -0700 Original-Received: from johnw by aris with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187ujV-0002vo-00 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:38:21 -0700 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Public-Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF40524D0 X-Home-Page: http://www.gci-net.com/users/j/johnw/ In-Reply-To: <5xpttox2e5.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk's message of "02 Nov 2002 01:04:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9069 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9069 >>>>> On Fri Nov 1, Kim writes: > You mean ... the only information in the mode line of interest to > you is the time of day and the battery level? Both taken together let me know when I can stop working. ;) > We agreed to pursue a solution where we would put the > global-mode-string at the right side of the echo area (when it is > not used for anything else); that way it would practically always > be visible, and not take precious space from the mode-line. > Unfortunately, I haven't had time to look into implementing that > yet. That sounds reasonable. > That's a matter of taste. The minor mode alist may not be used > very often, but IMO it's important to be able to see it when I > actually need it. Sometimes I look to see if Flyspell is enabled, or the major mode, but when it's 20+ characters long in some buffers, it just whisks all the remaining information beyond visibility (I use 80 column wide Emacs windows). That leaves me with just the current buffer name and offset. Not too helpful. John