From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:34:06 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87vfocoxwx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87vfoysbnt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312031327.hB3DRDR16325@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071898900 4840 80.91.224.253 (20 Dec 2003 05:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 06:41:34 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AXZrp-000846-00 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:41:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AXZro-0006Hj-00 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:41:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AXamO-0001mE-UO for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:40:00 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AXalU-0001Za-Nj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AXakw-0001WS-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.246.52.22] (helo=ns5.tangramltd.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AXakw-0001WF-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 01:38:30 -0500 Original-Received: from 80-235-37-158-dsl.mus.estpak.ee ([80.235.37.158] helo=mail.jurta.org) by ns5.tangramltd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AXZnO-0002t7-M2; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:36:58 +0200 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-Reply-To: <200312031327.hB3DRDR16325@f7.net> (Karl Berry's message of "Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:27:13 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.tangramltd.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jurta.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18769 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18769 karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes: > For example, currently the Glossary node of the > Emacs Manual has non-functional references that merely has a form of a > simple text "(q.v.)" or "See `default.'". > > I see. Yes, this is more or less what anchors were invented for. > As far as glossary entries go, I think that would work ok. The > reference name solution seems too heuristic. Anchors wouldn't work in this case because many glossary entries have the same names as Info nodes (e.g. "Filling", "Global Mark Ring" and many others). Making anchors for them is not possible because anchors and nodes can't have the same names. So, using the reference name solution seems inevitable here. > However, I certainly agree with the comment that if we make an anchor > for every index entry, that's too many anchors (it would make the i cmd > a subset of g :). Instead, I think indexes are important enough that > they deserve special treatment. > > In fact, we've had this discussion before, in the context of allowing > arbitrary index names (specifically, ones with a :). One message from > that thread is from rms, on 26 Jun 2003 01:30:50 -0400, Message-Id: > . I found this message, but I have one question to administrators of the emacs-devel mailing list: does the emacs-devel archive exist in mbox format available for download? Often there is a need to read old discussions, but web interface to archives is too inconvenient. Much better is to browse mail archives in a local mbox file by one of the Emacs mail readers. -- http://www.jurta.org/emacs/