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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Cc: dooglus@gmail.com, c.a.rendle@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, lekktu@gmail.com
Subject: Re: C file recoginzed as image file
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:23:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vejfse60.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1H4OBs-0003v9-0P@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:

 >     stephen wrote:  The right one is the
 >     cumulative probability that one of many images displayed over the
 >     period of use of Emacs will realize the threat.
 > 
 > There is no way to estimate this probability.

I apologize for contradicting you, but there are many ways of
estimating any probability, some more accurate than others, some
quantitative, some qualitative.

Getting qualitative estimates need not require any expertise at all.
In fact, several people have made implicit estimates in this thread
already.  Eg, Chris Moore's and Lennart Borgman's are evidently "too
high to ignore".  Granted, those are not very precise estimates.  But
such qualitative estimates are the ones that are relevant to
decision-making.

Here the salient estimate is "much higher than the probability that
any single image will realize the threat", which implies that your
implicit estimate of the risk of single images is a large
underestimate of the relevant risk.

That still may not be enough to make it worth committing substantial
Emacs resources to address the issue before the release, but it would
be sad if the decision were made on the basis of a severe
underestimate of the risk.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-10  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-05 14:27 C file recoginzed as image file Charles Rendleman
2007-01-05 14:46 ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 14:52   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-05 15:02   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 19:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 22:23       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 22:44         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 22:47           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-05 23:01           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-05 23:15             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-06 18:07             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 18:49               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-06  0:12         ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-06 18:07           ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 19:20           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 10:52         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-06  3:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-06 10:58         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-07 16:50           ` Mathias Dahl
2007-01-07  3:46         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  5:36           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08  5:32             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 15:09               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 15:25                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-01-08 17:32                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08 19:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 11:12                       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2007-01-09 11:44                         ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-09 11:57                           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2007-01-09 12:40                           ` David Kastrup
2007-01-09 13:03                             ` martin rudalics
2007-01-09 12:57                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-09 16:01                           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09 13:11                         ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-15  6:06                           ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-09 21:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 22:20                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-01-08 19:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-08 22:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:26                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09  4:08                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  9:48                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 11:06                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-09 12:01                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 12:16                                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-09 12:23                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-10  9:05                                     ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-10  9:38                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10 23:06                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 21:54                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-01-09 21:55                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 23:56                                     ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10  0:21                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10 15:11                                         ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10 15:17                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09 21:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 21:40                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08 17:09                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-01-08 20:26                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 20:39                   ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 20:48                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 20:52                       ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:03                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  7:57                           ` David Kastrup
2007-01-09  9:08                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 18:50                               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 19:47                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 22:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-09 23:19                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-10  1:12                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-10  1:37                                       ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-08 22:42                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-08 23:27                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:39                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  2:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:32                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08 23:43                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09  0:11                       ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09  0:19                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 13:16                   ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-09 17:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 19:59                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:04           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 13:34               ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08 18:20                 ` David Kastrup
2007-01-08 21:02                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-08 21:14                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09  0:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09  1:08                   ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 17:57                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 23:24                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 23:39                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-10  1:00                           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-10  1:05                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-09  4:40                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-01-09 21:07                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-10  4:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2007-01-10 23:05                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-09 13:07                   ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-09 13:25                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-09 13:57                       ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-01-09 23:37                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-15  6:10                         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-09 22:58                       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-09 23:31                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-10  1:31                       ` Stephen Leake
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 10:05           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-06  2:55     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  3:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-06 12:48       ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  3:47         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:21           ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  9:58             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-08  5:32             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-08 14:05               ` Reiner Steib
2007-01-08 14:16                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-01-08 18:12                   ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-01-09  0:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-14  2:52                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-14 18:55                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-01-15 14:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-15 15:14                         ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-19 16:14                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-19 16:33                             ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-19 17:10                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-20  2:10                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-20 23:38                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-21 22:27                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-21 22:36                                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-21 22:47                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-01-22  9:04                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-14 23:23                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-15  1:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-15  5:59                         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-01-15 23:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07 11:49           ` Jason Rumney
2007-01-07 16:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-08  5:33             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06 12:42     ` Chris Moore
2007-01-07  3:47       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-07  9:28         ` Michaël Cadilhac
2007-01-08  5:32           ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-06  2:55 ` Richard Stallman

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