From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Saving markup formats Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:54:48 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87vedmtnsz.fsf@jurta.org> References: <871wgi9jzb.fsf@jidanni.org> <87odjlwpu1.fsf@jurta.org> <87ir9r1m99.fsf@jurta.org> <87myz2i9tj.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6ocx0tk.fsf_-_@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182106967 22033 80.91.229.12 (17 Jun 2007 19:02:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Oliver Scholz , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 17 21:02:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I001M-0007A4-8E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:02:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I001L-0004OM-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I001I-0004MZ-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I001G-0004KV-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I001G-0004K7-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I001E-0006zL-I8; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I001B-000EzW-T3; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:02:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat\, 16 Jun 2007 21\:56\:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: e35cef5ed21d82303c208435479e4a86 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1148 [June 14 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73158 Archived-At: > [ I'd suggest to move this discussion to emacs-devel ] > On Sat, Jun 16 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: > [ Juri Linkov: ] >> What are the most preferable formats to save markup? One variant is >> Enriched text. It was designed for using in e-mail, but actually nobody >> uses it nowadays. Most people prefer HTML in e-mail as a replacement of >> plain text. >> >> HTML would be useful. RTF would be useful. XML would be useful. >> The old Word format would be useful, at least to be able to read it. >> If you implement any of these, it will be a nice contribution. >> If you implement more than one, even better. > > Oliver Scholz (Cc-ed) has done some work on an > RTF reader for Emacs a couple of years ago. Maybe his work is useful > in the current context. Oliver has signed papers for Emacs (past and > future changes) and I'm quite sure he'd assign this code as well. I suppose the most important question is not whether Emacs can read/write files in some particular format, but rather a question whether Emacs can render format elements correctly on screen. That's whether Emacs is ready to be a WYSIWYG editor with all its required features or not. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/