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* [thorn+news@fastmail.fm: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion repository]
@ 2007-07-13 18:38 Richard Stallman
  2007-07-13 19:22 ` Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion repository Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-07-13 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Would someone please DTRT then ack?

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From: Tassilo Horn <thorn+news@fastmail.fm>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:31:31 +0200
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Subject: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion repository


Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

If I find a new file in a directory that's under subversion version
control and say `M-x vc-register' I'm prompted if a rcs directory should
be created. It seems emacs doesn't recognize that there's a .svn
directory already.

I cannot say since when emacs has this bug, but about one month ago it
worked as expected. Emacs recognized that this file is in a svn

In GNU Emacs 22.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.13)
 of 2007-07-11 on baldur
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10300000
configured using `configure  '--prefix=/usr' '--host=i686-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--program-suffix=-emacs-22-cvs' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-22-cvs' '--without-carbon' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--with-xpm' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--without-hesiod' '--with-gpm' '--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-march=i686 -mtune=prescott -O2 -pipe''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Text

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tracking-mode: t
  desktop-save-mode: t
  recentf-mode: t
  window-number-meta-mode: t
  window-number-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  global-hl-line-mode: t
  which-function-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> i <backspace> <backspace> 
i s SPC i n SPC a SPC s v n SPC r e p o s i t a r y 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> o r f <backspace> 
y SPC a s <backspace> n d SPC a d d e d SPC i t SPC 
t o SPC v e r s i o n SPC t <backspace> c o n r <backspace> 
t r o l . <down> C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k 
C-k C-k C-k <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> C-SPC <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> M-w C-x k <return> y C-x k <return> C-x b <return> 
M-x v c - r e g <tab> <return> n M-x r e p o <tab> 
r t <tab> e m a <tab> b u <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Mark set
Buffer *mail to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org* modified; kill anyway? (y or n) 
Mark set
Press C-c C-c when you are done editing.
Registering /home/heimdall/uni/repos/st-ss07/victor/comments/blatt08.txt... 
Create RCS subdirectory? (y or n) 
apply: Searching for program: no such file or directory, rcs
Making completion list...


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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-13 18:38 [thorn+news@fastmail.fm: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion repository] Richard Stallman
@ 2007-07-13 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-13 22:11   ` Tassilo Horn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-07-13 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel

> If I find a new file in a directory that's under subversion version
> control and say `M-x vc-register' I'm prompted if a rcs directory should
> be created. It seems emacs doesn't recognize that there's a .svn
> directory already.

> I cannot say since when emacs has this bug, but about one month ago it
> worked as expected. Emacs recognized that this file is in a svn

It works here when I try it.
Can you give a more precise recipe?


        Stefan

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-13 19:22 ` Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion repository Stefan Monnier
@ 2007-07-13 22:11   ` Tassilo Horn
  2007-07-13 23:09     ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-07-13 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

Hi Stefan,

> It works here when I try it.
> Can you give a more precise recipe?

,----
| heimdall@baldur ~> cd uni/repos/st-ss07/tutoren/heimdall/
| heimdall@baldur ~/u/r/s/t/heimdall> ll -a
| total 92K
| drwxr-xr-x 3 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ./
| drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ../
| -rw------- 1 heimdall users  73K 2007-06-06 12:07 kaffemaschine.jpg
| drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:57 .svn/
| heimdall@baldur ~/u/r/s/t/heimdall> ll -a .svn/
| total 36K
| drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:57 ./
| drwxr-xr-x 3 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ../
| -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users  212 2007-06-06 12:08 all-wcprops
| -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users  347 2007-07-11 08:56 entries
| -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users    2 2007-06-06 12:07 format
| drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 prop-base/
| drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 props/
| drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 text-base/
| drwxr-xr-x 5 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:56 tmp/
`----

Now I find a file foo.txt in that directory, insert some contents and
save it with C-x C-s.

Then I do `M-x vc-register'. It asks me if I want to create a RCS
subdirectory, I say no and those are the contents of *Messages*.

,----
| Mark set [2 times]
| Loading boxquote...done
| Mark set
| (New file)
| Wrote /home/heimdall/uni/repos/st-ss07/tutoren/heimdall/foo.txt
| Loading vc...done
| Loading log-edit...done
| Mark set
| Press C-c C-c when you are done editing.
| Registering /home/heimdall/uni/repos/st-ss07/tutoren/heimdall/foo.txt... 
| Create RCS subdirectory? (y or n) 
| apply: Searching for program: no such file or directory, rcs
| Quit
| call-interactively: End of buffer
| Mark set
`----

I tried the procedure with `emacs -nw -Q' and got the same behavior. My
svn client version is 1.4.4, the server has version 1.4.0, if that
matters.

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
Chuck Norris once created a flamethrower by urinating into a lighter. 

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-13 22:11   ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-07-13 23:09     ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-14 10:45       ` Tassilo Horn
  2007-07-14 15:12       ` Robert J. Chassell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-07-13 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> It works here when I try it.
>> Can you give a more precise recipe?

> ,----
> | heimdall@baldur ~> cd uni/repos/st-ss07/tutoren/heimdall/
> | heimdall@baldur ~/u/r/s/t/heimdall> ll -a
> | total 92K
> | drwxr-xr-x 3 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ./
> | drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ../
> | -rw------- 1 heimdall users  73K 2007-06-06 12:07 kaffemaschine.jpg
> | drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:57 .svn/
> | heimdall@baldur ~/u/r/s/t/heimdall> ll -a .svn/
> | total 36K
> | drwxr-xr-x 6 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:57 ./
> | drwxr-xr-x 3 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 ../
> | -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users  212 2007-06-06 12:08 all-wcprops
> | -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users  347 2007-07-11 08:56 entries
> | -r--r--r-- 1 heimdall users    2 2007-06-06 12:07 format
> | drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 prop-base/
> | drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 props/
> | drwxr-xr-x 2 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-06-06 12:08 text-base/
> | drwxr-xr-x 5 heimdall users 4.0K 2007-07-11 08:56 tmp/
> `----

> Now I find a file foo.txt in that directory, insert some contents and
> save it with C-x C-s.

> Then I do `M-x vc-register'. It asks me if I want to create a RCS
> subdirectory, I say no and those are the contents of *Messages*.

Hmm...

> I tried the procedure with `emacs -nw -Q' and got the same behavior. My
> svn client version is 1.4.4, the server has version 1.4.0, if that
> matters.

The `svn' executable shouldn't make any difference because the backend
should only be chosen based on the fact that there is a .svn directory.

Can you show me the result of the following commands from the "foo.txt"
buffer (i.e. a buffer visiting a new still unregistered file):

  M-: vc-handled-backends RET
  M-: (vc-responsible-backend buffer-file-name t) RET
  M-x load-library RET vc-svn RET
  M-: (vc-rcs-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET
  M-: (vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET


-- Stefan

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-13 23:09     ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2007-07-14 10:45       ` Tassilo Horn
  2007-07-14 19:40         ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-14 15:12       ` Robert J. Chassell
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-07-14 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

Hi Stefan,

> Can you show me the result of the following commands from the
> "foo.txt" buffer (i.e. a buffer visiting a new still unregistered
> file):
>
>   M-: vc-handled-backends RET

(RCS CVS BZR SVN SCCS HG Arch MCVS)

>   M-: (vc-responsible-backend buffer-file-name t) RET

First I got an error that this is a void-function, so I did vc-register
once and got RCS then.

>   M-x load-library RET vc-svn RET

Loading vc-svn...done

>   M-: (vc-rcs-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET

nil

>   M-: (vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function vc-svn-responsible-p)
  (vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name)
  eval((vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name))
  eval-expression((vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name) nil)
  call-interactively(eval-expression)

That's really strange. After loading vc-svn.elc with `load-file' the
expression above returns t. But still `vc-register' asks if a rcs dir
should be created.

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
      "OS's and GUI's come and go, only Emacs has lasting power."
          Per Abrahamsen in <rjbsysc7n1.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-13 23:09     ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-14 10:45       ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-07-14 15:12       ` Robert J. Chassell
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert J. Chassell @ 2007-07-14 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Today's GNU Emacs CVS snapshot, Sat, 2007 Jul 14  09:58 UTC
GNU Emacs 22.1.50.71 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.13)
started with
    /usr/local/src/emacs/src/emacs -Q -D \
     --eval '(setq-default mode-line-buffer-identification
                           (quote (#("%14b" 0 4 (face (:weight normal))))))' \
     -fn "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--20-200-75-75-C-100-ISO8859-1" \
     --visit=/usr/local/bin/emacs-test                               \
     --eval "(setq frame-title-format '(\"Emacs test:  %b\"))"       \
     --eval '(set-frame-name "Emacs test")'                          \
     --eval '(switch-to-buffer "*scratch*")'                         \
     --eval '(emacs-version t)'

i.e., started with -Q -D and a bunch of other items, none of which
are important for the nonce.

In /usr/local/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-actions.el
which is a file I got via svn
    M-: (vc-svn-responsible-p (buffer-file-name)) RET
returns t

When I use the keyboard with
    C-x v g
(vc-annotate) in that buffer, I see the annotated buffer in
    *Annotate emacspeak-actions.el (rev 4678)*
colored, in Annotate mode.


However when I do that in my normal Emacs using that file, after
    M-x load-library RET vc-svn RET
    M-: (vc-svn-responsible-p (buffer-file-name)) RET
which returns t

the `C-x v' (vc-annotate) command fails and I see

    vc-ensure-vc-buffer: File
    /usr/local/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-actions.el is not under
    version control

However, when I evaluate

    (vc-svn-annotate-command
     "/usr/local/src/emacspeak/lisp/emacspeak-actions.el"
     "*emacspeak-actions.el*")

I see the annotated buffer in
    *emacspeak-actions.el*
uncolored, in Fundamental mode

--
    Robert J. Chassell                          GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
    bob@rattlesnake.com                         bob@gnu.org
    http://www.rattlesnake.com                  http://www.teak.cc

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-14 10:45       ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-07-14 19:40         ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-14 22:18           ` timotheus
  2007-07-14 23:33           ` Tassilo Horn
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-07-14 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> M-x load-library RET vc-svn RET

> Loading vc-svn...done

>> M-: (vc-rcs-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET

> nil

>> M-: (vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name) RET

> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function vc-svn-responsible-p)
>   (vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name)
>   eval((vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name))
>   eval-expression((vc-svn-responsible-p buffer-file-name) nil)
>   call-interactively(eval-expression)

> That's really strange. After loading vc-svn.elc with `load-file' the
> expression above returns t. But still `vc-register' asks if a rcs dir
> should be created.

Can you try M-x list-load-path-shadows RET ?


        Stefan

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-14 19:40         ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2007-07-14 22:18           ` timotheus
  2007-07-14 23:33           ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: timotheus @ 2007-07-14 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel


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The most common `vc-svn.el' issue is that:
    - distros include an Emacs 21 version in the subversion software
      package and put it in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/

    - emacs 22 and 23 have a newer version with a lot of changes in
      their non-site lisp directory, example:
      /usr/share/emacs/22.1/lisp/

    - emacs loads the site-lisp first, and thus the older library

Deletion of the old library, or explicit loading of the newer by
canonical file name is recommended.

Regards,
-timotheus

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* Re: Fwd: vc-register doesn't recognize subversion  repository
  2007-07-14 19:40         ` Stefan Monnier
  2007-07-14 22:18           ` timotheus
@ 2007-07-14 23:33           ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-07-14 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

Hi Stefan,

>> That's really strange. After loading vc-svn.elc with `load-file' the
>> expression above returns t. But still `vc-register' asks if a rcs dir
>> should be created.
>
> Can you try M-x list-load-path-shadows RET ?

Oh, I think the underlined line is the source of the troubles...

Yep, I deleted the version of vc-svn subversion installed, and now it
works as expected. Sorry for the waves. But I'll memorize
`list-load-path-shadows' and try that before sending any bug reports in
the future.

Bye,
Tassilo

/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/slime-cvs/tree-widget hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/tree-widget
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg-pgp5 hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg-pgp5
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cedet/common/ezimage hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/ezimage
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg-gpg hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg-gpg
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cedet/speedbar/sb-image hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/sb-image
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg-def hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg-def
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cedet/speedbar/speedbar hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/speedbar
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cedet/speedbar/dframe hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/dframe
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/subversion/vc-svn hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/vc-svn
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg-pgp hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg-pgp
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg
~/repos/gnus/lisp/pgg-parse hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/pgg-parse
~/repos/gnus/lisp/dns-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/textmodes/dns-mode
~/repos/gnus/lisp/tls hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/net/tls
~/repos/gnus/lisp/netrc hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/net/netrc
~/repos/gnus/lisp/gnus-int hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/gnus-int
~/repos/gnus/lisp/gnus-setup hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/gnus-setup
~/repos/gnus/lisp/nnlistserv hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/nnlistserv
~/repos/gnus/lisp/nnimap hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/nnimap
~/repos/gnus/lisp/nnwfm hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/nnwfm
~/repos/gnus/lisp/gnus-cache hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/gnus-cache
~/repos/gnus/lisp/gnus-picon hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/gnus-picon
~/repos/gnus/lisp/nndiary hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/nndiary
~/repos/gnus/lisp/nndir hides /usr/share/emacs/22.1.50/lisp/gnus/nndir
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152 Emacs Lisp load-path shadowings were found

-- 
When  I released GNU  Emacs and  people started  using it,  they started
sending me improvements in the mail. So I would get a message with a bug
fix, and a message with a  new feature, and another bug fix, and another
new feature, and another... and another... until they were pouring in on
me so  fast that just  taking advantage of  all of the help  people were
giving me was a big job. Microsoft doesn't have this problem. (RMS)

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