From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:10:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87ve4jb25e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <005101c873f4$230d0750$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203556875 3801 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2008 01:21:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 'Sascha Wilde' , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, 'Stefan Monnier' , storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 02:21:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JS081-0004yZ-3i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:21:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS07V-0004uB-UD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:21:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz18-0002Es-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz16-0002EO-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz16-0002EL-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:10:24 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRz0y-0006QX-GC; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-013.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.13] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JRz0o-0001FO-Qx; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:10:06 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96F682FF7; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:10:05 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <005101c873f4$230d0750$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:09:36 -0800") Original-Lines: 19 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:20:51 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89760 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > Wrt emacs -nw: I can't speak to this, because I no longer use Emacs without > a window manager, but from Alan's report, perhaps the default should be > different for emacs -nw. He seemed to be reporting horrible dark blue > flashes or something. Maybe others can comment on whether the default should > differ in this case. I regularly use tmm on both X and tty displays, and I don't think there's any problem with tmm on ttys using the default faces (in fact I quite like the "blue" tmm region face used on ttys) . I think basic problem is Alan's visceral dislike of tmm, not any particular problem with tmm on ttys. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche