From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: <87ve2cfk9x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <878wz9btq8.fsf@jurta.org> <85fxthy4qp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208716473 23783 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2008 18:34:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 20:35:07 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JneNW-00086O-AN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:35:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JneMr-00068x-4c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JneMb-00063M-UN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JneMa-00062K-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JneMa-00062C-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from c-98-216-111-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.216.111.182] helo=furry) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JneMW-0003P2-MV; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 481BEC047; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:43:36 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95527 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >> I am very much against enabling delete-selection-mode by default. > > I am very surprised. What could be a reason not to delete the region > after typing a character when this region was intentionally activated > specially for doing this. It seems to me that delete-selection-mode doesn't mesh very well with the Emacs paradigm of killing/yanking text. When a region is active, typing something replaces the text but doesn't save it on the kill-ring, which can be disconcerting. I know it's possible to change this so that the replaced text goes onto the kill-ring, but that behavior doesn't "feel" right either; for one thing, it's incompatible with the delete-selection behavior of other programs. All thinks considered, IMHO the present behavior, where delete-selection is off, is a better default.