From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Heavy display problems with new font backend Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:06:26 +0200 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <87ve2aup1p.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> References: <87hcdy6srx.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <4809F8AC.8000802@gnu.org> <87skxgbtlm.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <18445.25224.874018.531866@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> <874p9uw77k.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <480DBC0D.5090600@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208862524 19090 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 11:08:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 13:09:19 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoGNA-0000SG-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:09:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoGMU-0004nz-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:08:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoGMN-0004nB-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoGMM-0004mZ-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoGMM-0004mE-05 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JoGML-0007e9-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JoGMF-00080f-GW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:19 +0000 Original-Received: from e178048104.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.48.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:19 +0000 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178048104.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:19 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178048104.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NgQyhjPqUdBgrONouhvYZuQT4n8= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95756 Archived-At: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:21:01 +0100 Jason Rumney wrote: > David Hansen wrote: > >> Well, if you want to use the good old bitmap fonts anyway it's probably >> not worth. These antialiased fonts look nice if they are huge black >> letters on a bright background. Small characters just look like s..., >> especially with white fg on black bg. I think I'll just use the old >> font handling as long as possible. >> > > There is a new font backend for the "old" X fonts, so you should be > able to just keep using the old bitmapped fonts without having to > resort to --disable-font-backend. This doesn't solve the display problems with non latin-1 characters. > If Xft has fonts of the same name that it imposes antialiasing on, > then you can put the following in .Xresources to only use old X fonts: > > Emacs.fontBackend: x Why compile in code I don't won't to use anyway? David